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12-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jun 12, 2011
Location: Olathe
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Who do you support? elderly or unions?
In July of this year nursing home workers worked out of their jobs after a legal contract was imposed on them after 19 months of arbitration. They were not fired, they walked away from a legal contract. As they left, they allegedly changed the name tags, prescription charts, and medical records of the patients. An independent panel has found that these actions severely endangerd the lives of the patients.
Today a judge has ordered that the striking workers get the jobs back and the non-union workers be fired even though the familes of the patients say that patient care has improved markedly under the new workers.
So whom do you support?
Do I need to point out that these workers are SEIU workers who requested through the NLRB that the White House appoint this judge to hear the case. This judge was appointed to the bench by Bill Clinton, supports democratic politicians, and is a known supporter of union causes.
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12-14-2012, 07:08 AM
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Join Date: Feb 15, 2012
Location: Houston
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First those "workers" should be charged with criminal neglect and arrested.
If the same thing had been done to children they would have been thrown in jail immediately.
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12-14-2012, 07:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 10, 2010
Location: Houston
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Power tends to corrupt. Unions have become just as corrupt as any sweat shop owner ever was. They drive entire industries out of business. Government worker unions are fueling the deficit. Greed isn't just limited to the owner who seeks to make a profit.
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12-14-2012, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Jan 20, 2011
Location: kansas
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This shit has happened with union and non workers.I think they need another judge to rule on this.They should not get their jobs anywhere care is involved.
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12-14-2012, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
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Originally Posted by The2Dogs
First those "workers" should be charged with criminal neglect and arrested.
If the same thing had been done to children they would have been thrown in jail immediately.
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Exactly. What they did was a criminal act. If by the grace of God, they don't go to prison like they should, like someone said, they should be striped of their license and not allowed to work in an industry that provides care of any kind.
I loathe unions. They have served their purpose now they are just perpetrators of a great farce and cost on themselves and us.
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12-14-2012, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Sep 23, 2010
Location: houston texas
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Fuck all that, just deport all those bastards to afganistan..
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12-14-2012, 11:17 AM
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Location: kansas
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Most of the union haters who work regular jobs have forgotten all the bennies they get were the hard work of a union.
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12-18-2012, 03:07 AM
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Join Date: May 3, 2011
Location: Out of a suitcase
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
In July of this year nursing home workers worked out of their jobs after a legal contract was imposed on them after 19 months of arbitration. They were not fired, they walked away from a legal contract. Wrong. You emphasize legal because you know it wasn't. See below for details. As they left, they allegedly changed the name tags, prescription charts, and medical records of the patients.No charges have been filed or suspects identified. The first allegations did not surface until the union had been on strike for 2 weeks. An independent panel has found that these actions severely endangerd the lives of the patients. What independent panel? Link? Didn't think so.
Today a judge has ordered that the striking workers get the jobs back and the non-union workers be fired even though the familes of the patients say that patient care has improved markedly under the new workers.At least as many have complained and a wrongful death suit has been filed against the company.
So whom do you support?
Do I need to point out that these workers are SEIU workers who requested through the NLRB that the White House appoint this judge to hear the case. Point out one of your lies? You don't need to but go ahead. That isn't how it works. I'm sure you have a link to prove me wrong. This judge was appointed to the bench by Bill Clinton, supports democratic politicians, and is a known supporter of union causes.
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You are one strange dude but the perfect fake conservative.
You pretend to be a genius but are clearly stupid.
You lie through your teeth.
You show no remorse or inclination to retract your false statements.
And you talk about values and that they should be taught in school. By some douche-bag like you.
Your lack of links is understandable.
You do virtually no research.
Judge Robert N. Chatigny of the United States District Court in Connecticut ruled on Tuesday night that the nursing homes’ owner, HealthBridge Management, had broken the law by refusing to bargain in good faith and by imposing the cuts before a true negotiating impasse had been reached
“We are acting in the best interests of our residents — their well-being is paramount to us,” she said. Ms. Crutchfield said the order to reinstate the strikers would “expose residents to the very people who sought to do them harm” during the walkout. HealthBridge has accused the strikers of several acts of sabotage, including changing the names on several patients’ doors and wheelchairs and switching the names of some residents in Alzheimer’s units.
Deborah Chernoff, a spokeswoman for the strikers’ union, the New England Health Care Employees Union, said it had opposed any sabotage. She suggested that the allegations themselves were suspicious, noting that they were first made two weeks after the strike began.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/nyregion/healthbridge-managemant-ordered-to-reinstate-striking-workers.html?_r=0
“Families say care suffering as nursing home workers strike.”
http://www.ctmirror.org/story/17031/resident-care-suffering-nursing-home-workers-strike-five-homes
The announcement of HealthBridge’s lawsuit against its own employees is just the latest in a series of aggressive actions by the company that has no basis in either fact or law. HealthBridge has repeatedly filed charges at the labor board against the union that were then quietly withdrawn or dismissed. In the two Labor Board trials that have been completed so far, the decisions went against HealthBridge.
Now, with another Complaint recently issued against the company, another trial against HealthBridge set for December and a hearing coming up this month on the federal government’s request for an injunction against HealthBridge, the company once again is employing its seemingly unlimited resources, not to provide quality care or settle a reasonable contract, but to point fingers everywhere but at its own proven illegal behavior.
We want to be clear that the actions that have been alleged at three of the HealthBridge nursing home facilities are inappropriate and contrary to our mission as caregivers and as a union. We condemn in the strongest terms any actions that could jeopardize care for nursing home residents. That includes the subpar care that family members of residents have said has been provided in some cases by replacement workers.
http://www.seiu1199ne.org/2012/10/12/response-to-hb-attack/
“since nearly 600 Connecticut nurses, aides, and nursing home support staff went out on strike after their employer, HealthBridge Management, illegally and unilaterally imposed a new contract without workers’ agreement — deeply cutting their compensation, benefits and working conditions.”
http://www.seiu1199ne.org/2012/09/20/2196/
HARTFORD — Were cutbacks in benefits imposed by HealthBridge Management a reasonable step after 17 months of failed negotiations or, as the government[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Tim/AppData/Local/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image002.gif[/IMG] says, illegal contract changes and the latest volley in "prolonged trench warfare to undermine the unions"?
NLRB attorney John McGrath said in his opening statement that the company's offer was predictably unacceptable. He said that HealthBridge bargained in bad faith by locking out employees to try to force the union to accept that offer, and by threatening to close the nursing homes if the union didn't agree to what he called "breathtaking concessions."
http://articles.courant.com/2012-09-10/business/hc-nlrb-trial-healthbridge-20120910_1_health-bridge-healthbridge-management-negotiations
“Chatigny’s injunction ordered HealthBridge Management to reinstate all the striking workers by Monday, saying the company failed to bargain in good faith before unilaterally imposing a new contract in June on workers with District 1199 of the New England Health Care Employees Union, which is affiliated with the Service Employees International Union. Workers went on strike July 3.”
http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/2012/12/12/conn-nursing-home-workers-hope-return-jobs/whyozwSZoCzGhYtVGpx4hI/story.html
“The U.S. Court of Appeals granted HealthBridge's request to delay the return of 600 striking nursing home workers, in a ruling issued Monday.
Chatigny ordered the company to bring back workers, saying that the NLRB was likely to prevail in the case. HealthBridge had also said a return of the workers would put nursing home residents in danger because, the company alleged, there were acts of sabotage against residents by workers immediately before the July walkout. No charges have been filed as a result of those allegations and no suspects have been publicly identified”
http://www.courant.com/business/hc-healthbridge-strikers-order-20121217,0,4563536.story
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12-18-2012, 05:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Who do you support? elderly or unions?
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I support both the elderly and unions. Next question?
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12-18-2012, 05:25 AM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 46,370
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There is a reason many heavily populated counties in TX have APS, Adult Protective Services.
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