LOCAL TAXES GOING DOWN...AWESOME!

[theaustinescorts]

Now that Obamacare is going to become the law of the land then what's going to happen to all the taxes that are going to indigent care now? They'll all go down...right?

At present the counties and cities operate hospitals which provide services to people who can't pay, so once everyone has private health insurance all of us are going to have our local taxes cut because the counties won't have that burdon anymore...right?

Whatever additional expense the Federal government has to pay to subsidize everyone having private insurance, and pay for the insurer's expenses and profits and the like, all that will offset all the other governments which are now footing the bill. Therefore the state, county and city taxes used for health care will all go way down....right?

It will be a huge relief in local taxes.....right?

Or am I missing something here?

[acp5762]

What's funding Obamacare, how do Doctors and other health workers get paid for their services for the Obamacare recipients?

[theaustinescorts]

Providers will be paid by private insurance companies which will displace medicaid and all other forms of government subsidized indigent care.

So therefore the taxes, mostly local, which fund all those other sources of care can go down....right?

[JD Barleycorn]

What about that 3.8% federal tax on everything of value that you sell (house, land, car, plane, boat, stocks, etc.)? It starts on the 1st of January.

Plus there is that little new federal tax on medical instruments. Like the defibrillator that saves so many lives. Now the company who makes them will have to charge your company more to buy one. It is also 3.8%. Maybe that is the new mark of the beast.

Don't you have a GOP governor to thank?

In answer to the question below

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Providers will be paid by private insurance companies which will displace medicaid and all other forms of government subsidized indigent care.

So therefore the taxes, mostly local, which fund all those other sources of care can go down....right?

where does the money for a private Ins co. come from to pay for the providers that treat Obamacare Patients?

[Guest123018-4]

I have not seen any for sale signs on the local county hospitals.

[Tobor the 8th Man]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

I have not seen any for sale signs on the local county hospitals.

Keep watching. 2016 ain't far away.

[Sidewinder]

Yeah, there are a couple of things you are missing.

First, there has never existed an elected government that had the slightest bit of difficulty finding some new hair-brained feel-good scheme that needs to be funded from taxpayer monies. You live in Austin, you should have figured this out by now, between the Texas legislature and the Austin City Council.

A whole bunch of special-purpose taxes were passed at the beginning of World War II, to pay for the war effort. The war is long since over, the bonds long since paid off, but the taxes were still in effect LONG after that point. (I think the excise tax on tires is STILL in effect, but I haven't bought tires lately.)

Second, most of the money spent on indigent care is not actually spent on indigent care. It goes to pay bureaucrats who talk to other bureaucrats about something that may or may not have anything to do with indigent care.

The numbers on this have been run, repeatedly. If you add up the dollars spent, at Federal and State level, on poverty relief (known quantities), and divide by the number of people in the US living below the poverty line (again, a known quantity), you find that we are spending MORE than would be needed to GIVE each and every such person enough money that they would be out of poverty.

I don't know what it is that we are doing in the War on Poverty. I do know that it isn't working, and I do know that continuing to do something that is observably not working is not a smart thing to do - unless the goal is something else.

[steamyromance]

Well i for one am going to start voting strait democrat ! Hell tax more spend more tax more spend more, it a never ending circle so i might as well get on the wagon.
Funny story one of my friends, friend was attempting to leave the US and take all of his money with him, his attorney informed him he better hurry cause Jan 1st 1/3 of it goes back to the Govt. I dont know how factual this is , but if its true it kinda makes for a interesting conversation. So you earn money, pay taxes but it really isnt all yours?

[slim deez]

Nothing is ours anymore in this Country. When you realize this maybe then you will wake up. But then it will be to late.

[acp5762]

I've heard the Health Care Reform Act Bill is over 900 pages. I've not read it. I suspect no one has. The knowledge any of us has about it is learned through osmosis. We learn a little here a little there. I think for the most part it's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside of an enigma. Iam afraid when it's all said and done it will prove to be the biggest cluster fuck of legislation ever to be bestowed upon us.

[CuteOldGuy]

I heard it was 2,700 pages, and that is just the law. It doesn't include the regulations. It will be a nightmare, especially with the IRS enforcing it.

I didn't realize how prophetic George HW Bush was when he said government health care would combine the efficiency of the postal service with the compassion of the IRS.

[theaustinescorts]

OMG...

Do you mean that when our states stop needing to spend on Medicaid, and the cities and counties stop having to pay for indigent care at their hospitals that they aren't going to reduce our taxes accordingly????

But won't that mean that all the new monies spent by the Federal government subsidizing private health premiums for people who can't pay won't be offset by those now footing the bill?

Won't that mean that a new colossal portion of our economy will now be taken up in taxes, and then be given over to a private industry??

Tell me it isn't so!

Why won't the states and counties do the right thing and give back the monies that they no longer really need?

They wouldn't really do that, would they?

[Guest123018-4]

Tell me you are not that dumb.

[i'va biggen]

Our Governor is wanting to do away with state income tax we are basically a age state which age is tax exempt.He is going to run the state on smoke and mirrors.