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Old 11-08-2012, 11:20 PM   #1
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Default Karl Rove had some explaining to do

I heard that Karl Rove had to call his donors to explain to them what the heck happened and why next time it'll be better. Political donors know they take chances when donating their money. There is no guaranteed winner in an election. If Rove has some explaining to do, what kind of crowd is he dealing with? Did they come in Cadillacs and with baseball bats?
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:19 AM   #2
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If Rove has some explaining to do, what kind of crowd is he dealing with? Did they come in Cadillacs and with baseball bats?
No, they wore robes and had white pointy hats!
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Carl bundled a shitload of money and backed 10 candidates of which 9 lost.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:42 AM   #4
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Anyone who ever listens to this idiot Rove again gets what they deserve.

He's not a genius, he's a moron. Dick Morris and Karl Rove would be fired today if Fox Noise had any balls, but they don't.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:47 AM   #5
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Anyone who ever listens to this idiot Rove again gets what they deserve.

He's not a genius, he's a moron. Dick Morris and Karl Rove would be fired today if Fox Noise had any balls, but they don't.
Rove is not a moron. He is quite intelligent, he is just evil. Hitler was a great orator, it's his message that was vile. Do not underestimate Rove, and don't ever turn your back on him. I truly think he is as close to a completely evil person as I have ever known. He reminds me of a far more sinister version of the villian in the Agatha Christie book, Curtain.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:52 AM   #6
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I think Rove gets far more credit than is warranted. Since Bush has been gone he's been a complete dud.

This election cycle has busted his myth forever.

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Old 11-09-2012, 08:11 AM   #7
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Rove is not a moron. He is quite intelligent, he is just evil. Hitler was a great orator, it's his message that was vile. Do not underestimate Rove, and don't ever turn your back on him. I truly think he is as close to a completely evil person as I have ever known. He reminds me of a far more sinister version of the villian in the Agatha Christie book, Curtain.
While once I would have agreed with you on this one....did you see his total meltdown when Fox called Ohio?

The numbers were not there and he should have known it. Fox News was not going to call Ohio wrong. Rove should have known the number crunchers were not going to ever get it wrong again but he didn't.

I do agree that he is one evil SOB. But almost all those poltical cocksuckers are, on both sides. That SOB is just the worst, what he did to McCain in the 2000 SC primary should have shunned him out of politics. But the GOP embraced him. I wish McCain would have kicked the ever loving shit out of him.
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That SOB is just the worst, what he did to McCain in the 2000 SC primary should have shunned him out of politics. But the GOP embraced him. I wish McCain would have kicked the ever loving shit out of him.
I could not agree more!
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:16 AM   #9
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While once I would have agreed with you on this one....did you see his total meltdown when Fox called Ohio?

The numbers were not there and he should have known it. Fox News was not going to call Ohio wrong. Rove should have known the number crunchers were not going to ever get it wrong again but he didn't.

I do agree that he is one evil SOB. But almost all those poltical cocksuckers are, on both sides. That SOB is just the worst, what he did to McCain in the 2000 SC primary should have shunned him out of politics. But the GOP embraced him. I wish McCain would have kicked the ever loving shit out of him.
You are probably correct, but I admit I am not objective about this bastard. He has absolutely no consern for what lies he tells or what lives he ruins, even people who are not in the political light--essentially civilians. He is the political equivalent of a paid assasin who kills for profit but also kills for the sadistic pleasure of it.

HE is a prototype of why many people are scared of the Republican party, even people who agree with many of their platform points.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:19 AM   #10
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So, you recieved your new marching orders. Rove is no longer dumb but is evil. I would like to hear your definition of evil and how it applies here. Wouldn't evil more apply to a chief executive who allows his people to be slaughtered to maintain a political fallacy? Wouldn't it be more evil to falsely claim that someone did things that they never did in order to win an election? I don't think its evil but it is stupid to have a deal with the opposition and then bust that deal with further demands. It is evil to then blame the other side for your stupidity because it is a lie. It is one thing to lie about yourself and another thing to lie about someone else. I think the evil you spoke of is still hanging over Washington DC.
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The only remarkable thing is that Fox will continue to pay consulting fees to Rove and Dick Morris.

Morris and Rove reminded me of that scene in the movie Titanic, where the owners Representative said, "this Ship can't sink". That was about an hour before it did just that.
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Wouldn't evil more apply to a chief executive who allows his people to be slaughtered to maintain a political fallacy? Wouldn't it be more evil to falsely claim that someone did things that they never did in order to win an election?
JD, it is time for you to get over George W. Bush. Sure, he allowed his people to be slaughtered in Iraq to maintain a political fallacy. And yes, he did falsely claim that someone did things that they never did in order to win an election.

But that was then, this is now. Get over it!
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:30 AM   #13
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So, you recieved your new marching orders. Rove is no longer dumb but is evil. I would like to hear your definition of evil and how it applies here. Wouldn't evil more apply to a chief executive who allows his people to be slaughtered to maintain a political fallacy? Wouldn't it be more evil to falsely claim that someone did things that they never did in order to win an election? I don't think its evil but it is stupid to have a deal with the opposition and then bust that deal with further demands. It is evil to then blame the other side for your stupidity because it is a lie. It is one thing to lie about yourself and another thing to lie about someone else. I think the evil you spoke of is still hanging over Washington DC.

Who to you insinuate I am receiving any orders from? My opinions of the "man" (used very loosely) come from no one other than what I have seen/heard/etc. I've never been real good at mouthing someone else's directives.

Evil in a person means he lies very convincingly, he gets others to lie and perjur themselves for his "client". He doesn't just repeat slanderous comments, he knowingly creates them with the intent of ruining their career and often vindictively ruining their lives.
It is not worth arguing about this with you. You have some evidence about Rove's total lack of morals if you want to see it, but you are too hung up on changing the topic. Look at the first post: the topic is Karl Rove. Did I say everyone else in DC is a saint? No. But whether someone else is good or bad does not detract one bit from the evil that is KR. Have you had the misfortune of seeing him up close? If you don't crawl around the sewers you can't really comprehend the filth and disease that's down there.
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