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Old 11-03-2012, 11:35 AM   #1
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Ever wonder why Obama is working so hard to increase welfare rolls.

The theory of increasing poverty among the masses stands at the center of Marxist thought as well as of older socialist doctrines. The accumulation of poverty parallels the accumulation of capital. It is the "antagonistic character of capitalist production" that "the accumulation of wealth at one pole" is simultaneously "accumulation of misery, work torture, slavery, ignorance, brutalization, and moral degeneracy at the other." This is the theory of the progressive increase in the absolute poverty of the masses. The Marxians still cling to the theory of increasing poverty purely on account of its propaganda value.

--Ludwig von Mises, Socialism


What we have now is NOT capitalism. Capitalism is not the problem, it is the solution.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:04 PM   #2
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Unfettered Capitalism IS the problem! It is what collapsed the economy, burst the housing bubble, started two wars over oil and wreaking havoc with the health and viability of our planet. Thank God you don't have the keys to the kingdom. Our rivers would again be catching fire and our water supply would be toxic with your buddies in the Teapublican Party at the helm. Citizens United is the dying canary in the coal mine, STOOOPID!

Wake up, COF

"No capitalistic system can flourish with a social conscience just as no socialistic system can flourish without individual fiscal achievement.

Socialism and Capitalism can and should co-exist to benefit each other as a blended form of governance.

If both are not freely sought and nourished, that government becomes tyranny."
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:05 PM   #3
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Most Democrats refuse to believe that their party is now controlled by Marxist socialists.
Ever wonder what happened to the Communist party in America?
Ever wonder what happened to the Socialist parties in America.
You do not have to look far to find them.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:19 PM   #4
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Ever wonder why Obama is working so hard to increase welfare rolls.

The theory of increasing poverty among the masses stands at the center of Marxist thought as well as of older socialist doctrines. The accumulation of poverty parallels the accumulation of capital. It is the "antagonistic character of capitalist production" that "the accumulation of wealth at one pole" is simultaneously "accumulation of misery, work torture, slavery, ignorance, brutalization, and moral degeneracy at the other." This is the theory of the progressive increase in the absolute poverty of the masses. The Marxians still cling to the theory of increasing poverty purely on account of its propaganda value.

--Ludwig von Mises, Socialism

What we have now is NOT capitalism. Capitalism is not the problem, it is the solution.
That may be the core problem with socialism. There is a fundamental conflict of interest between socialist politician's best interest and the best interest of the people. It's in the best interest of socialist politicians that poverty increases. Democrats love poverty. Democrats want people to be dependant on the government; they want them to be poor. Democrat power comes from poverty. If everyone was prosperous, the Democrat party would cease to exist.

Republicans want people to be rich; the more rich people the better. As people become richer and more self reliant, they vote for lower taxes, smaller government and reduced social welfare; they vote Republican.

It's in the Republican party's self interest that America prospers. It's in the Democrat party's self interest that America fails.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:28 PM   #5
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Most Democrats refuse to believe that their party is now controlled by Marxist socialists.
Ever wonder what happened to the Communist party in America?
Ever wonder what happened to the Socialist parties in America.
You do not have to look far to find them.


Worked out Dems got the commies Repubs got the skinheads.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:10 PM   #6
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No I think the skinheads are all yours there Mike.
Those racists bastards fit right in with those other racist bastards.
The irony is they are both members of one group.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:35 PM   #7
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sorry two dogs a fucking aint in my corner.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:38 PM   #8
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".... social conscience ....
When the King's wife wears a $10,000 outfit to his debate for Head Socialist ...

... that is NOT "social conscience" ... that is "entitlement" from perceived status....

.... particularly when the "peasants" are at 7.9% tweaked unemployment and about 11% actual unemployment and the "peasants" have to pay back trillions in debts because the "head socialist" passed out the kingdom's money to his buddies.

Go vote for him and make yourself feel better.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:57 PM   #9
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[QUOTE=Little Stevie;1051849427][SIZE=3][COLOR=Purple]Unfettered Capitalism IS the problem! It is what collapsed the economy, burst the housing bubble, started two wars over oil and wreaking havoc with the health and viability of our planet. Thank God you don't have the keys to the kingdom. Our rivers would again be catching fire and our water supply would be toxic with your buddies in the Teapublican Party at the helm. Citizens United is the dying canary in the coal mine, STOOOPID!

I dont want to rain on your parade Stevie but the housing bubble as are most bubbles can be directly tied to the Fed Reserve. Do some homework! The keys to the kingdom are held by a small group of people that control the Worlds money supply, it is sad that you persist in proving your ignorance on this board.
This has nothing to do with capitalism, but everything to do with a progressive ( Woodrow Wilson ) turning over control of our money and its supply to 12 banks and their respective owners.

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Wilson secured passage of the Federal Reserve Act in late 1913. Wilson had tried to find a middle ground between conservative Republicans, led by Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, and the powerful left wing of the Democratic party, led by William Jennings Bryan, who strenuously denounced private banks and Wall Street. The latter group wanted a government-owned central bank that could print paper money as Congress required. The compromise, based on the Aldrich Plan but sponsored by Democratic Congressmen Carter Glass and Robert Owen, allowed the private banks to control the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, but appeased the agrarians by placing controlling interest in the System in a central board appointed by the president with Senate approval. Moreover, Wilson convinced Bryan's supporters that because Federal Reserve notes were obligations of the government, the plan met their demands for an elastic currency. Having 12 regional banks was meant to weaken the influence of the powerful New York banks, a key demand of Bryan's allies in the South and West. This decentralization was a key factor in winning Glass' support.[79] The final plan passed in December 1913. Some bankers felt it gave too much control to Washington, and some reformers felt it allowed bankers to maintain too much power. Several Congressmen claimed that New York bankers feigned their disapproval.[80]
Wilson named Paul Warburg and other prominent bankers to direct the new system. While power was supposed to be decentralized, the New York branch dominated the Fed as the "first among equals".[81] The new system began operations in 1915 and played a major role in financing the Allied and American war effort.[82] The strengthening of the Federal Reserve was later a major accomplishment of the New Deal.[83]
Now you can bitch and moan, call me names, criticize my command of the the English language but it doesn't make you right.
Ask yourself who owns these banks that Wilson sold out to.
Ask yourself why the US Govt has never been allowed to see the books.
Ask yourself why we had the Great Depression in 1929 and why many think it was no more than a giant land grab.
There are many problems with capitalism but there are many problems with most forms of anything, because there are always those few that have to have control.
So why is taxing and spending so appealing to you?
Why is bigger Govt. more appealing to you.
Do you honestly feel a bigger Govt. will do its job that it can be controlled by anyone?
These are legitimate questions, i would respectively ask for polite diatribe instead of insults.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:22 PM   #10
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So what are you and your homeys going to do when there aint nobody left to take from?
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:55 PM   #11
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Wilson, Damn that guy, when that guy said I will fuck you so hard your great great grandkids will still feel it, he really meant it!
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Fucking dickdrips!
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