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11-01-2012, 10:30 PM
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Intelligence official offers new timeline for Benghazi attack
There are a number of right-wing zealots who post here who will not believe a word of this but here is the correct time line. From CNN
From Suzanne Kelly
A senior U.S. intelligence official emphatically denied that the CIA refused repeated requests from its officers on the ground in Benghazi, Libya, to assist the Americans under attack at the U.S. mission there.
Just five days before the presidential election and in a rare briefing to reporters, the official Thursday offered almost a minute-by-minute account of what happened that night.
According to a Fox News report last Friday, citing an unnamed source, CIA officers working at an annex about a mile from the mission were told by officials in the CIA chain of command to "stand down" after receiving a call from the mission asking for help.
"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," the senior intelligence official said, offering a passionate defense of the actions taken by the CIA officers on the ground during the September 11 attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
The official insisted the agency operators at the annex were in charge of their movements and the safety of those who were preparing to respond to the initial attack on the mission compound.
There was "no second guessing" their decisions, the official said.
According to a detailed timeline provided by the official, there was a roughly 25-minute gap between the time those officers received the initial call for help from the mission to the time when the approximately half a dozen officers were able to get underway to assist.
During that time, according to the official, CIA officers at the annex location were loading weapons and equipment into their vehicles, while others were on the phone trying to get local "friendly" militias with heavier weapons to help. The official said the officers responded "as quickly and as effectively as possible."
The team from the annex came under fire at the mission, the official said, but was able to gather all of the U.S. personnel at the mission except for the missing ambassador and headed back to the annex where they again faced small arms fire for about 90 minutes before the attackers left.
The Fox report also suggested that the officers on the ground urgently asked for military backup, but that the CIA also denied those requests. The official said that reporting was wrong. The military, the official said, provided drone surveillance and there were a couple of military officers as part of a CIA security team from Tripoli to assist.
That security team was delayed at the Benghazi airport and did not arrive at the annex until early morning, shortly before that facility came under a sudden and intense attack that lasted 11 minutes. Two officers, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, were killed by mortar fire.
The attack has become part of the political debate as the Obama administration has been harshly criticized by many Republicans for initially describing the incident as a spontaneous protest against an anti-Islamic video on the web and evolved into an assault on the mission.
The senior intelligence official said there was a need to address this issue now because some of the media mischaracterizations of what was done that night is a disservice to the men who had to make decisions under fire.
Here is the timeline of events, as provided by the senior intelligence official:
– Around 9:40 p.m. (local time) the annex receives the first call that the mission is under attack.
– Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team leaves the annex for the mission.
– Over the next 25 minutes, the team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons and make their way onto the compound in the face of enemy fire.
– At 11:11 p.m., the requested drone surveillance arrives over the mission compound.
– By 11:30 p.m., all U.S. personnel, except for Stevens, who is missing, depart the mission. The exiting vehicles come under fire.
– Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approximately 1 a.m.
– At about the same time, a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the ambassador is missing and that the situation at the annex has calmed, the team focuses on locating the ambassador and tries to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital.
– It's still predawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that Stevens is almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital is uncertain, the team heads to the annex to assist with the evacuation.
– They arrive with Libyan support at the annex at 5:15 a.m., just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the annex. The two security officers are killed when they take direct mortar fire as they engage the enemy. That attack lasts only 11 minutes before dissipating.
– Less than an hour later, a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrives to help evacuate the compound of all U.S. personnel.
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11-01-2012, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLouie
There are a number of right-wing zealots who post here who will not believe a word of this but here is the correct time line. From CNN
From Suzanne Kelly
A senior U.S. intelligence official emphatically denied that the CIA refused repeated requests from its officers on the ground in Benghazi, Libya, to assist the Americans under attack at the U.S. mission there.
Just five days before the presidential election and in a rare briefing to reporters, the official Thursday offered almost a minute-by-minute account of what happened that night.
According to a Fox News report last Friday, citing an unnamed source, CIA officers working at an annex about a mile from the mission were told by officials in the CIA chain of command to "stand down" after receiving a call from the mission asking for help.
"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," the senior intelligence official said, offering a passionate defense of the actions taken by the CIA officers on the ground during the September 11 attack that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
The official insisted the agency operators at the annex were in charge of their movements and the safety of those who were preparing to respond to the initial attack on the mission compound.
There was "no second guessing" their decisions, the official said.
According to a detailed timeline provided by the official, there was a roughly 25-minute gap between the time those officers received the initial call for help from the mission to the time when the approximately half a dozen officers were able to get underway to assist.
During that time, according to the official, CIA officers at the annex location were loading weapons and equipment into their vehicles, while others were on the phone trying to get local "friendly" militias with heavier weapons to help. The official said the officers responded "as quickly and as effectively as possible."
The team from the annex came under fire at the mission, the official said, but was able to gather all of the U.S. personnel at the mission except for the missing ambassador and headed back to the annex where they again faced small arms fire for about 90 minutes before the attackers left.
The Fox report also suggested that the officers on the ground urgently asked for military backup, but that the CIA also denied those requests. The official said that reporting was wrong. The military, the official said, provided drone surveillance and there were a couple of military officers as part of a CIA security team from Tripoli to assist.
That security team was delayed at the Benghazi airport and did not arrive at the annex until early morning, shortly before that facility came under a sudden and intense attack that lasted 11 minutes. Two officers, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, were killed by mortar fire.
The attack has become part of the political debate as the Obama administration has been harshly criticized by many Republicans for initially describing the incident as a spontaneous protest against an anti-Islamic video on the web and evolved into an assault on the mission.
The senior intelligence official said there was a need to address this issue now because some of the media mischaracterizations of what was done that night is a disservice to the men who had to make decisions under fire.
Here is the timeline of events, as provided by the senior intelligence official:
– Around 9:40 p.m. (local time) the annex receives the first call that the mission is under attack.
– Fewer than 25 minutes later, a security team leaves the annex for the mission.
– Over the next 25 minutes, the team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons and make their way onto the compound in the face of enemy fire.
– At 11:11 p.m., the requested drone surveillance arrives over the mission compound.
– By 11:30 p.m., all U.S. personnel, except for Stevens, who is missing, depart the mission. The exiting vehicles come under fire.
– Over the next roughly 90 minutes, the annex receives sporadic small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenade rounds. The security team returns fire and the attackers disperse at approximately 1 a.m.
– At about the same time, a team of additional security personnel lands at the Benghazi airport and negotiates for transport into town. Upon learning the ambassador is missing and that the situation at the annex has calmed, the team focuses on locating the ambassador and tries to obtain information on the security situation at the hospital.
– It's still predawn when the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and an armed escort. Having learned that Stevens is almost certainly dead and that the security situation at the hospital is uncertain, the team heads to the annex to assist with the evacuation.
– They arrive with Libyan support at the annex at 5:15 a.m., just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the annex. The two security officers are killed when they take direct mortar fire as they engage the enemy. That attack lasts only 11 minutes before dissipating.
– Less than an hour later, a heavily-armed Libyan military unit arrives to help evacuate the compound of all U.S. personnel.
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Where does CNN mention the bomb attack in April? Where does CNN mention the bomb attack in June? Where does CNN enumerate the numerous requests for additional security? Once again, BigLouse, you and CNN are ignoring the numerous requests from the Libyan mission for additional security in the months preceding the attack -- Odumbo didn't do jack-shit to enhance security: he allowed security to be reduced to an "artificially low" level.
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11-01-2012, 11:47 PM
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Of course they won't believe it. Their one trick pony is all tricked out!
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11-01-2012, 11:52 PM
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Odumbo didn't do jack-shit to enhance security: he allowed security to be reduced to an "artificially low" level.
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11-01-2012, 11:58 PM
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Go tell it on de Mountain!
DIPSHIT! Three months from now, you'll be running for reelection. What will your position on this be then?
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11-02-2012, 12:20 AM
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Odumbo didn't do jack-shit to enhance security: he allowed security to be reduced to an "artificially low" level.
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11-02-2012, 12:48 AM
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Care to explain with all this information that Rice, Clinton, and Obama blamed a non existent protest and a video? Take your time, I'll wait.
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11-02-2012, 06:17 AM
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Propaganda you can believe in.....
How is that Hope and Change working out for you.........
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11-02-2012, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Care to explain with all this information that Rice, Clinton, and Obama blamed a non existent protest and a video? Take your time, I'll wait.
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Those faces have names attached to them ...
... it is always "interesting" when an UNNAMED "senior U.S. intelligence official" gives us all the accurate information on exactly what happened ...
... So why was General Ham "brought home" after he related what actually happened ..... or perhaps more accurately ....
... what actually DID NOT HAPPEN.
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11-02-2012, 06:36 AM
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Let me offer a new timeline for the Benghazi attacks:
Jan 20, 2009 - Obama inaugurated
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11-02-2012, 07:03 AM
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the republican hope for change is slipping away..If Mitt fails get a better man next time.
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11-02-2012, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Where does CNN mention the bomb attack in April? Where does CNN mention the bomb attack in June? Where does CNN enumerate the numerous requests for additional security? Once again, BigLouse, you and CNN are ignoring the numerous requests from the Libyan mission for additional security in the months preceding the attack -- Odumbo didn't do jack-shit to enhance security: he allowed security to be reduced to an "artificially low" level.
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IB , you act as if request are just sent down from the heavens the next day.
Where were you when Marines were requesting armored Humvee's?
Bush didn't do jack shit until a soldier asked a question and the media ran with it.
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11-02-2012, 07:42 AM
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The wingnuts have no interest in the truth around this issue, none. They think they have a toe-hold and they are not letting go. By the time they realize this story is dead, Obama will be sworn into his second term.
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11-02-2012, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Those faces have names attached to them ...
... it is always "interesting" when an UNNAMED "senior U.S. intelligence official" gives us all the accurate information on exactly what happened ...
... So why was General Ham "brought home" after he related what actually happened ..... or perhaps more accurately ....
... what actually DID NOT HAPPEN.
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Where were you when....
http://www.infowars.com/articles/military/tillman_family_demands_truth.h tm
Pat Tillman's Family Demands The Truth
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11-02-2012, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF
IB , you act as if request are just sent down from the heavens the next day. Once again you are ignoring the most obvious sign of criminal negligence: somebody in the Odumbo administration took the time to reflect on and reduce Libyan security to an “artificially low” level.
Where were you when Marines were requesting armored Humvee's? In Afghanistan in the same, unarmored HUMVEEs Clinton left us with!!!
Bush didn't do jack shit until a soldier asked a question and the media ran with it.
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Four Americans were murdered due to Odumbo's negligence on 9/11 2012, and Odumbo boarded Airforce One and flew to Las Vegas.
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