What makes a good driver?

[Wakeup]

Captain Save-A-Ho...

See how well that bat works out for you...

[Ahriana Love]

It makes no difference how well you screen a client they still turn out crazy sometimes. I have seen this one guy three times and suddenly he is acting like he is this RAMBO type mutherF when I get there. Don't know if he was high are what. I do know that I am not going there anymore. Some of these CLIENTS or no good period. SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!! As I said screen all you want as best you can. Sometimes it isn't enough. I am not taking anyone's side, but speaking from past experiences. You would rather be safe and alive than beat the hell up or worse dead somewhere. Some of the people here on Eccie are asses. Like the the gentleman that spoke previously. Probably an asshole to the core. I don't use a driver UNLESS there is more than one client to be seen, if the person is asking if i am coming alone over and over again. I really don't even go. No telling what the person is planning.

None of these people are to be trusted completely. If its one thing I hate is an ARROGANT client. I don't even bother with them. Here on Eccie it can be complicated. on P411 the clients are more layed back. At least to me they are. You don't have all this drama from the men. They read your profile and if they like you or what they read they PM you and you in return check them out, check their OKAYS and you take it from there. If you want you can call the providers to get verification. They have to be checked out just like you in order to get on the site. Here on Eccie anyone can get on here. LE too. Yes LE. There is no problem with the donations are anything. you meet do what you do and that's that. Here you have to talk about it and all that crap. Even so you still need to be careful. No matter how good it goes you just never know, because you know the risks when you get into something like this. There are no guarantees. Either way I think you should be respectful others. But I guess that's not part of it on here with some people. My advice to you Dlph1n is to keep your comments to yourself because you see what it will get you. (maybe she should screen them better) That wasn't the proper response. Things like that should not be posted on here because it could be bad for you friends clientele rate. All of my reviews are good on here and P411. the best thing I can say is it is better to be safe than hurt, broken up somewhere, or worse dead. Nobody is going to give a shit except the people that are within you OWN private circle. Family, friends, etc. But its not okay to broadcast that you love her and stuff like that. SOME people will have a field day taking hits at you. Better to be safe than sorry.

[Satyrrical]

What makes a good driver? He must be named Bill Blazejowski, drive a hearse, and sing Rolling Stones off key.

[kymberlane]

I read the original post and figured you were a pimp wannabe. Ok so then I looked at your other posts, and the way you write is just confusing. Its like you were promoting yourself and your gf.

You called yourself a shemale I believe. So sweets, whatever you are male or female, ya get the jist of it all? Drivers are usually pimps. Maybe you arent, maybe you are, who cares really. I mean, what guy(or kind of a gal) charges the woman he loves for protection? That should be a free service right? Baby you are PIMPING if she is giving you a cut of any kind. And you mentioned in the other posts when describing yourself that your petite. I dont really think that is going to intimidate some big guy who is attempting to hurt your gf. Maybe you should hire a real bodyguard.

By the way...fyi...a "companion" is a "provider."

Not sure what makes your hooker more special and the "real deal" compared to any other "hooker" provider" "companion" on this site or in the biz.

As for me asking, I was being a smartass and not literal.

Like Wakeup said "good luck with that bat" I have a feeling we will be reading about you on the news one day.

Originally Posted by theD0lPh1n

Can I also just point out the fact that you, kym, call me a dumbass and yet you've needed me to break things down as if I am speaking to a child in order to understand my posts? Really, all the information you needed was right there and explained in full, you are the only one who has come to me so far requesting to have your hand held for a special explanation.

[NaughtyLindsey]

drivers are bad news...concern for your gf....more like keeping an eye on the money.....PIMP

[Guest080613-2]

I have a bit of 50/50 on this one. Being a driver (dropping someone off as a favor if they don't have a car) is just that. I surely would not hang out around the place as u can be charged with pimping if caught or suspicious loitering of some sort. I have done a favor for a few agency friends of mine by dropping them off and picking them up afterwards but I damn sure went and found something to occupy my time until the text came in and I always made sure I was not known to be with her as it can make a client very uneasy.

[Guest080613-2]

Easy solution to not being seen is to have her walk to a nearest corner or street

[Poet Laureate]

One MAJOR error in your thinking is that you distinguish between a knife, a bat, and a gun. Brandishing any of the above will get you into equal amounts of trouble, except in jurisdictions where there are additional penalties for firearm usage. Assault with a deadly weapon, assault with intent to cause great bodily harm, aggravated assault, and assault with intent to kill all have one thing in common; they don't differentiate between weapon types. As long as your weapon of choice could kill or main, the charges will probably be the same.
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That said, never never ever pick up a gun unless you intend to load it; never load a gun unless there are scenarios in which you would point it, and never point a gun unless you can envision yourself pulling the trigger.

[Katharine Butler]

In my book and those of many of the women who view companionship as a profession and not a job, there are vast differences between a "pimp", a "driver", "security" and a "manager".
Ok, nobody is in favor of big, nasty men beating down 14 yr old girls when they don't bring in a set amount of money each night and keeping those same girls in line with various emotional and physical abuses.
Now, moving on to the other three areas.....
Do you really think an A level band....actually even a C level band laying a casino does all their own booking, driving, promoting, security, running out for bagels, costume design, set design, lighting and sound, etc, etc, etc.... Of course they don't. And, the professionals that these professionals employ to do this work get paid either hourly/monthly or some such or in a percentage of the take.
So, why do these things make us twitchy in This industry? Is it the same old song and dace, to continue the metaphor, of "It's too businesslike. How do I know she Really likes me?" You have to pick one. Do you want a Non professional that constantly no shows, shows up in sweatpants, has cell phone pics etc.... All that stuff you guys hate? Or, a professional that knows you have to spend money to make money. And, that sometimes it takes a team to stay on top and give you the best?

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by theD0lPh1n

Still hypothetical, my getting in strategy is pretty dirty. I would not carry a firearm, just a baseball bat and a knife for the purposes of "getting in" and for protection. Now, this strategy really only works for personal residences: I bust the window, make a ton of noise, get in, and see how the situation needs to go from there. To be honest, I am mainly relying on busting the window to be enough to scare off anyone who is trying something funny - and if it goes further, relying on the element of surprise (make all that noise, run in, pray there's no gun, and use the guy as bat practice - only to disable). The knife is mostly there in case ropes are involved, or if in the scuffle the bat is lost I just get too close to get swung at and fight from there.

Oh please.. On the sweet baby tebow please... Try that shit with someone like me and end up like that guy who did that to me in 1995 in Houston. It did not go very well for him. At all.. Never bring a knife to what could be a gunfight son..


And the rest... Still on a hypothetical level here... Most of us guys even smell a pimp/driver she leaves minus any money. At all. Having her ask for a duplicate key for hotel access is beyond retarded And if any guy actually gave her one.. Well he should have been culled at birth.

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by Chicago K9

One MAJOR error in your thinking is that you distinguish between a knife, a bat, and a gun. Brandishing any of the above will get you into equal amounts of trouble, except in jurisdictions where there are additional penalties for firearm usage. Assault with a deadly weapon, assault with intent to cause great bodily harm, aggravated assault, and assault with intent to kill all have one thing in common; they don't differentiate between weapon types. As long as your weapon of choice could kill or main, the charges will probably be the same.
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That said, never never ever pick up a gun unless you intend to load it; never load a gun unless there are scenarios in which you would point it, and never point a gun unless you can envision yourself pulling the trigger.

True.. And even like in my case when someone kicks in your door looking for the former tenant who he had a past relationship with but did not know she moved brandishing a knife.. You still go through hell getting cleared from shooting the dumbass 2 times. 6 months of hell at that.

[theD0lPh1n]

Originally Posted by bebe

It makes no difference how well you screen a client they still turn out crazy sometimes. I have seen this one guy three times and suddenly he is acting like he is this RAMBO type mutherF when I get there. Don't know if he was high are what. I do know that I am not going there anymore. Some of these CLIENTS or no good period. SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!! As I said screen all you want as best you can. Sometimes it isn't enough. I am not taking anyone's side, but speaking from past experiences. You would rather be safe and alive than beat the hell up or worse dead somewhere. Some of the people here on Eccie are asses. Like the the gentleman that spoke previously. Probably an asshole to the core. I don't use a driver UNLESS there is more than one client to be seen, if the person is asking if i am coming alone over and over again. I really don't even go. No telling what the person is planning.

None of these people are to be trusted completely. If its one thing I hate is an ARROGANT client. I don't even bother with them. Here on Eccie it can be complicated. on P411 the clients are more layed back. At least to me they are. You don't have all this drama from the men. They read your profile and if they like you or what they read they PM you and you in return check them out, check their OKAYS and you take it from there. If you want you can call the providers to get verification. They have to be checked out just like you in order to get on the site. Here on Eccie anyone can get on here. LE too. Yes LE. There is no problem with the donations are anything. you meet do what you do and that's that. Here you have to talk about it and all that crap. Even so you still need to be careful. No matter how good it goes you just never know, because you know the risks when you get into something like this. There are no guarantees. Either way I think you should be respectful others. But I guess that's not part of it on here with some people. My advice to you Dlph1n is to keep your comments to yourself because you see what it will get you. (maybe she should screen them better) That wasn't the proper response. Things like that should not be posted on here because it could be bad for you friends clientele rate. All of my reviews are good on here and P411. the best thing I can say is it is better to be safe than hurt, broken up somewhere, or worse dead. Nobody is going to give a shit except the people that are within you OWN private circle. Family, friends, etc. But its not okay to broadcast that you love her and stuff like that. SOME people will have a field day taking hits at you. Better to be safe than sorry.

Thanks for the great post, everything noted. I'm not upset or anything at comments, I know there are going to be assholes wherever you go, and particularly with this topic I wasn't expecting hearts and sunshine.

Originally Posted by Satyrrical

What makes a good driver? He must be named Bill Blazejowski, drive a hearse, and sing Rolling Stones off key.

You win, I died laughing.

Originally Posted by kymberlane

I read the original post and figured you were a pimp wannabe. Ok so then I looked at your other posts, and the way you write is just confusing. Its like you were promoting yourself and your gf.

You called yourself a shemale I believe. So sweets, whatever you are male or female, ya get the jist of it all? Drivers are usually pimps. Maybe you arent, maybe you are, who cares really. I mean, what guy(or kind of a gal) charges the woman he loves for protection? That should be a free service right? Baby you are PIMPING if she is giving you a cut of any kind. And you mentioned in the other posts when describing yourself that your petite. I dont really think that is going to intimidate some big guy who is attempting to hurt your gf. Maybe you should hire a real bodyguard.

By the way...fyi...a "companion" is a "provider."

Not sure what makes your hooker more special and the "real deal" compared to any other "hooker" provider" "companion" on this site or in the biz.

As for me asking, I was being a smartass and not literal.

Like Wakeup said "good luck with that bat" I have a feeling we will be reading about you on the news one day.

Man, where to start with you:
1.) I don't go around promoting her. I keep myself separate from her clients completely.

2.) I never used the word "shemale" to describe myself - infact I explicitely stated in one of my posts that I was not. Shemale is mtf, we ftms don't have a comparable word but we are what we are - cuntboys. I also never used the word "petite", but really, what i want to know is why do you care this much to try to screen my comments? I don't even know what youre trying to prove, much less why you are so invested in proving it. It won't make any difference to what I do or how I think. ALso, you seem really sure that you can tell who I'm even referring to in these posts from my comments which was confusing to me at first but I can follow your logic now - so I'll save you the time, and give you two hints: 1.) I know more than one in the industry and 2.) For the one I drive for, she's not getting her clients off of Eccie.

3.) I don't charge her for protection - she gives me a small cut (less than what she'd pay a taxi to get herself there and back) because she feels like I am providing her with a service - both taxi-ing her, and keeping her secure in knowing there is someone she knows and trusts outside of her past time as a provider on call to up her chances of getting out of a dangerous situation. Because at the very least, even if I can't take someone, I can make a fuckton of noise and make the situation a whole lot less comfortable for anyone trying to get away with something awful. In any case, I have never asked her for a fee, she gives it to me of her own will. And even if it were a business transaction, I am not her pimp - I am not forcing her to take clients, nor am I threatening her into giving me cuts of her money. Ironically enough, it's the very definition of a donation.

4.) Neither she nor i can just afford to hire a bodyguard, nor would we know how to go about finding someone who wasn't sketch to do that - why would she get in the car with a big guy that can hurt her if she's not getting into a car with a client?

5.) What makes her the "real deal"? Now I think i see what's motivating you to keep dragging this out with me. I am not answering this question, except to say you know nothing of my past with this girl, the nature of our relationship, nor am I going to post anything about that on this forum. To be honest, I doubt you could even begin to understand since you already seem to be putting the girls who provide services in a box where they can't possibly have closer relationships with men outside of the past time - nor do you seem to consider its possible they had a life before the past time either.

Originally Posted by Mina Parker

I have a bit of 50/50 on this one. Being a driver (dropping someone off as a favor if they don't have a car) is just that. I surely would not hang out around the place as u can be charged with pimping if caught or suspicious loitering of some sort. I have done a favor for a few agency friends of mine by dropping them off and picking them up afterwards but I damn sure went and found something to occupy my time until the text came in and I always made sure I was not known to be with her as it can make a client very uneasy.

She tells them she has a driver anyway, but I make sure to stay out of the picture. As for possible charges - I accept the risk that comes with it because I also trust her methods of screening (both pre and during a call).

Originally Posted by Chicago K9

One MAJOR error in your thinking is that you distinguish between a knife, a bat, and a gun. Brandishing any of the above will get you into equal amounts of trouble, except in jurisdictions where there are additional penalties for firearm usage. Assault with a deadly weapon, assault with intent to cause great bodily harm, aggravated assault, and assault with intent to kill all have one thing in common; they don't differentiate between weapon types. As long as your weapon of choice could kill or main, the charges will probably be the same.
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That said, never never ever pick up a gun unless you intend to load it; never load a gun unless there are scenarios in which you would point it, and never point a gun unless you can envision yourself pulling the trigger.

You bring up excellent points, and your last paragraph is why I don't intend on ever bringing a gun. This is not a job to me, and I don't regularly use guns. I also don't want to risk my own misuse of a fire arm. To be honest, like i said, my strategy isn't to hurt someone and get out, its to make a bunch of noise to sketch anyone trying to creep out, cause some mayhem, and get her out. I distinguish weapons like a knife or a bat from guns because I feel I can reasonably use them, but also because they have much more utility than a gun - I can bust a window if I need to, I can cut anything used to restrain her, etc.

Originally Posted by Katharine Butler

In my book and those of many of the women who view companionship as a profession and not a job, there are vast differences between a "pimp", a "driver", "security" and a "manager".
Ok, nobody is in favor of big, nasty men beating down 14 yr old girls when they don't bring in a set amount of money each night and keeping those same girls in line with various emotional and physical abuses.
Now, moving on to the other three areas.....
Do you really think an A level band....actually even a C level band laying a casino does all their own booking, driving, promoting, security, running out for bagels, costume design, set design, lighting and sound, etc, etc, etc.... Of course they don't. And, the professionals that these professionals employ to do this work get paid either hourly/monthly or some such or in a percentage of the take.
So, why do these things make us twitchy in This industry? Is it the same old song and dace, to continue the metaphor, of "It's too businesslike. How do I know she Really likes me?" You have to pick one. Do you want a Non professional that constantly no shows, shows up in sweatpants, has cell phone pics etc.... All that stuff you guys hate? Or, a professional that knows you have to spend money to make money. And, that sometimes it takes a team to stay on top and give you the best?

Exactly. I do have a feeling most of the hate is motivated by the idea that it turns it all too business like, which is why I do not make myself ever seen nor do I participate in any night beyond a level of

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Oh please.. On the sweet baby tebow please... Try that shit with someone like me and end up like that guy who did that to me in 1995 in Houston. It did not go very well for him. At all.. Never bring a knife to what could be a gunfight son..


And the rest... Still on a hypothetical level here... Most of us guys even smell a pimp/driver she leaves minus any money. At all. Having her ask for a duplicate key for hotel access is beyond retarded And if any guy actually gave her one.. Well he should have been culled at birth.

Oh come off the rambo shit, no one's impressed that you sketched a girl out and brought a gun with you to a call. I don't really know what you mean by "most of us guys even smell" statement, or why its relevant. Is it really that hard to understand why a girl would want to bring someone along to check in with especially with the potential of those like you to carry a firearm to meet her?

ANyway, this has already been way more of a time sink than I bargained for, I'll check back in withthis topic occasionally so feel free to post your own experiences, comments thoughts and suggestions, but I am going to keep myself out of commenting.

[canuckvic]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Your girlfriend needs to do a better, more thorough, job screening her clients.

I concur pryamider and OP, sorry IMHO thats way too complicated. If hooking is that unsafe in NOLA to go to those extremes, not worth it for both the driver and provider or move.