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Old 10-12-2012, 11:28 PM   #16
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Good leadership will do all that is required; including exploiting our fossil fuels, support alternatives, and encourage conservation.....unfortunately , Obama isn't doing this.

Time for a change.
Like I said, no dumb questions.

Plenty of dumb answers.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:34 PM   #17
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Because Mr Poor Long Term Memory:

Before they "evolved" Natural Gas was considered a non-green CO2 demon by the Democratic Socialists and their eco-facist masters.

Now that we are closer to the election, Obama appears to believe that there is such a concept as "Clean Coal".

He'll have move "flexibility" if he's re-elected.

You require so little from "Dear Leader."
Burning off huge volumes of gas just to get rid of it was the issue.
Can't you ever tell the whole truth instead of misrepresenting it?
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:42 AM   #18
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Horse fly I think you are one of the wingers ridiculing green here...
Define "green." As I wrote for many years as a kid I had a Randy Shack electric kit that contained a solar cell. I've been waiting for decades for a cheap 1kW solargrid to nail to the side of my house. Now I work for large energy company that invests billions in various green projects. Most, if not all simply don't have a payout. I'm not saying one day there won't be but not with most of these technologies.

For the most part, gasoline can't be beat for safe and convenient storage of billions of BTUs.

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Burning off huge volumes of gas just to get rid of it was the issue.
Can't you ever tell the whole truth instead of misrepresenting it?
Bullshit Mr Poor Long Term Memory II.

You are talking about flaring. Controlled Flaring puts much less C02 in the air than does all the power generation and home heating.

Keep me out of you homosexual fantasies Munch.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:04 AM   #19
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Actually, we slaughtered A LOT of whales for their oil. The oil industry actually saved the whales from extinction.

Natural gas takes pipelines to distribute to the homes. In the north and north east, many of the homes there just don't have the ability to connect. Plus the enviro-wackos stop every effort to install new pipelines.
Maybe they want us to go back to slaughtering whales.

What the enviro-whackos need to do is heat their homes with SOLAR.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:06 AM   #20
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Actually, we slaughtered A LOT of whales for their oil. The oil industry actually saved the whales from extinction.

Natural gas takes pipelines to distribute to the homes.

What the enviro-whackos need to do is heat their homes with SOLAR.
It's more of an issue of retro-fitting homes and businesses to burn gas or an alternative to oil, and solar energy is "challenged" during the winter to produce sufficient electricity (which takes a lot) to heat. For the most part "we" have not built for solar energy, which in some cases uses angle and windows to assist through "passively" capturing energy and releasing heat in the summer time.

If one is going to utilize "natural" heating and cooling, one must design the structures ahead of time to take advantage of prevailing winds, changes in the angle of sunlight, and retaining the created condition inside of the building. "We" don't do that any more.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:59 AM   #21
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There is a huge amount used for heating,why not convert to gas?Any attempt to go green is ridiculed here..
People are going green and it's working. Small locally owned farms are cropping up and people are starting to buy locally. I don't see this as a "fad", but moving toward a real change. Obama supports change, and that's why I am voting for him. We have tried capitalism and can see that it doesn't work for the majority.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:34 AM   #22
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People are going green and it's working. Small locally owned farms are cropping up and people are starting to buy locally.

We have tried capitalism and can see that it doesn't work for the majority.
Uhhhhh....

.... locally owned by whom? and farms for what?

Actually, Obaminable's pitch is that "capitalism" DOES NOT work for the MINORITY ...

.. please don't forget that "Obamacare" was initiated to provide health insurance coverage for the 15 million people in this country who didn't have any ... for one reason or another ... and were not citizens of this country ... for one reason or another.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:03 AM   #23
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Actually, we slaughtered A LOT of whales for their oil. The oil industry actually saved the whales from extinction.

Natural gas takes pipelines to distribute to the homes. In the north and north east, many of the homes there just don't have the ability to connect. Plus the enviro-wackos stop every effort to install new pipelines.
Maybe they want us to go back to slaughtering whales.

What the enviro-whackos need to do is heat their homes with SOLAR.

They have refineries in the east maybe those whackos don't want to loose their customers...
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:57 AM   #24
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Uhhhhh....

.... locally owned by whom? and farms for what?
I guess some questions are too difficult.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:28 AM   #25
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People are going green and it's working. Small locally owned farms are cropping up and people are starting to buy locally. I don't see this as a "fad", but moving toward a real change. Obama supports change, and that's why I am voting for him. We have tried capitalism and can see that it doesn't work for the majority.
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I guess some questions are too difficult.
To some people the glass is 47% full, others its 47% empty.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:08 AM   #26
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"verified psycho"

To some people the glass is 47% full, others its 47% empty.
A good looking one though.

But I still want to know about those small "farms" ....

..... or we talking vegetables or storage tanks? Inquiring minds want to know.
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There have always been small farms all over the nation, it is nothing new.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:15 AM   #28
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To some people the glass is 47% full, others its 47% empty.
in any case, there's still room for more wine.
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