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08-11-2013, 08:59 AM
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Religious family abandons U.S
There is being dumb and dumber but this family is a real piece of work. Hey morons how about paying back the government for saving your sorry ass.
PHOENIX (AP) — A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.
Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.
But just weeks into their journey, the Gastonguays hit a series of storms that damaged their small boat, leaving them adrift for weeks, unable to make progress. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile where they are resting in a hotel in the port city of San Antonio.
Their flights home were arranged by U.S. Embassy officials, Gastonguay said. The U.S. State Department was not immediately available for comment.
The monthslong journey has been "pretty exciting" and "little scary at certain points," Gastonguay told the Associated Press by telephone.
She said they wanted to go to Kiribati because "we didn't want to go anywhere big." She said they understood the island to be "one of the least developed countries in the world."
Kiribati is a group of islands just off the equator and the international date line about halfway between Hawaii and Australia. The total population is just over 100,000 people of primarily Micronesian descent.
Hannah Gastonguay said her family was fed up with government control in the U.S. As Christians they don't believe in "abortion, homosexuality, in the state-controlled church," she said.
U.S. "churches aren't their own," Gastonguay said, suggesting that government regulation interfered with religious independence.
Among other differences, she said they had a problem with being "forced to pay these taxes that pay for abortions we don't agree with."
The Gastonguays weren't members of any church, and Hannah Gastonguay said their faith came from reading the Bible and through prayer.
"The Bible is pretty clear," she said.
The family moved in November from Ash Fork, Arizona, to San Diego, where they lived on their boat as they prepared to set sail. She said she gave birth to the couple's 8-month-old girl on the boat, which was docked in a slip at the time.
In May, Hannah, her 30-year-old husband Sean, his father Mike, and the couple's daughters, 3-year-old Ardith and baby Rahab set off. They wouldn't touch land again for 91 days, she said.
She said at first, "We were cruising."
But within a couple of weeks "when we came out there, storm, storm, storm."
The boat had taken a beating, and they decided to set course for the Marquesas Islands. Instead, they found themselves in a "twilight zone," taking more and more damage, leaving them unable to make progress.
They could have used a sail called a genoa, she said, but they risked snapping off the mast and losing their radio and ability to communicate.
They had been on the ocean for about two months and were low on supplies. They were out of food and were down to "some juice and some honey." She said they were able to catch fish, but they didn't see any boats.
Still, we "didn't feel like we were going to die or anything. We believed God would see us through," she said.
At one point a fishing ship came into contact with them but left without providing assistance. A Canadian cargo ship came along and offered supplies, but when they pulled up alongside it, the vessels bumped and the smaller ship sustained even more damage.
They were getting hit by "squall after, squall, after squall."
"We were in the thick of it, but we prayed," she said. "Being out on that boat, I just knew I was going to see some miracles."
Eventually, their boat was spotted by a helicopter that had taken off from a nearby Venezuelan fishing vessel, which ended up saving them.
"The captain said, 'Do you know where you're at? You're in the middle of nowhere,'" she said.
They were on the Venezuelan ship for about five days before transferring to the Japanese cargo ship, where they were for nearly three weeks before landing in Chile on Friday. The Chilean newspaper Las Ultimas Noticias reported the story of their arrival.
"They were looking for a kind of adventure; they wanted to live on a Polynesian island but they didn't have sufficient expertise to navigate adequately," police prefect Jose Luis Lopez, who took the family's statement at San Antonio, told the newspaper.
Sean Gastonguay's brother Jimmy, who lives in Arizona, said he had provided a description of the family's vessel to the U.S. Coast Guard and exchanged emails with them once they were picked up by the first boat.
"There was some concern, but we were hoping for the best, and they eventually popped up," he said. He was able to keep track of the family with the help of the Coast Guard as they were transferred from ship to ship.
Hannah Gastonguay said the family will now "go back to Arizona" and "come up with a new plan."
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08-11-2013, 09:27 AM
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It reminds me of the man who sitting on the roof of his house as the flood water were rising praying to God for help.
A boat comes by and offers to take him aboard and he declines stating that God will take care of him.
The waters continued to rise and a second boat offered to save him and again he declined stating God will save him.
Finally a helicopter comes along and again he declines.
The man drowns and stands before God in heaven and asks why did you not save me.
God replied, I sent two boats and a helicopter, what more did you want me to do.
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08-11-2013, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The2Dogs
It reminds me of the man who sitting on the roof of his house as the flood water were rising praying to God for help.
A boat comes by and offers to take him aboard and he declines stating that God will take care of him.
The waters continued to rise and a second boat offered to save him and again he declined stating God will save him.
Finally a helicopter comes along and again he declines.
The man drowns and stands before God in heaven and asks why did you not save me.
God replied, I sent two boats and a helicopter, what more did you want me to do.
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Good one!
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08-11-2013, 11:40 AM
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I hate to be the official bubble burster but I don't see anything in the story about a massive Government search. I just read about a series of mishaps, involving civilian vessels from other countries, and eventual rescue by a Venezuelan ship.
Despite being inexperienced, a little dopey, and completely unprepared they all survived. I think that is interesting. They all survived. Government didn't do that.
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08-11-2013, 03:16 PM
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And then had to rely on the government they wanted to get away from to bring them safely home. I would have left them in Chile.
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08-11-2013, 03:18 PM
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And then had to rely on the government they wanted to get away from to bring them safely home. I would have left them in Chile.
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What are the buffets like in Chile, Big Louise?
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08-11-2013, 03:23 PM
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Chile Con Carne
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08-11-2013, 04:36 PM
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Despite being inexperienced, a little dopey, and completely unprepared they all survived. I think that is interesting. They all survived. Government didn't do that.
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And your point is, what, exactly?
That we don't need government because these folks survived without government assistance?
They survived because they were blind lucky.
What do you think the odds are that someone else who does the same thing will survive next time? Many 50%, if they are lucky?
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08-11-2013, 06:17 PM
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JD and JL should buy a boat and make the trip.
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08-11-2013, 06:45 PM
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JD and JL should buy a boat and make the trip.
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You should buy a boat and shove it up your ass...
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08-11-2013, 06:57 PM
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There are stupid people found at every age, in every religeon, and every political spectrum.
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08-12-2013, 02:01 AM
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Good riddance
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08-12-2013, 02:07 AM
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I heard about some really stupid, religious people who think they get 72 virgins if they commit murder while committing suicide. How stupid can you get?
As for my earlier post you have to couple it with the one that prompted the reply. Someone (who is unimportant) said that government spend a bunch of money rescuing these people. There is no evidence in this or any other article. My entire point was that they survived against all the odds.
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08-12-2013, 05:18 AM
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I heard about some really stupid, religious people who think they get 72 virgins if they commit murder while committing suicide. How stupid can you get?
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I'll bet there are more people who think that some guy built a boat and put 2 of every animal on it.
Or believe the earth is all of 6000 years old.
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08-12-2013, 08:01 AM
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I think the larger point is why are so many people leaving the US as it becomes more and more liberal, and less and less free?
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