Shocking Admission. Rand Paul Not Sure There Was a Fiscal Bill

[CuteOldGuy]

According to Rand Paul, the Fiscal bill was posted online at 1:36AM and voted on at 1:39AM. If this is true, then it would mean that:

1. a copy was never printed
2. nobody read the bill
3. anybody voting yes, voted for a bill they never saw

Shouldn't that be a violation of something?

This bill is going to fail as horribly as the Obamacare bill did and the stimulus bill before it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=8HwBvUojs7o#!

[i'va biggen]

You hope.

[Old-T]

Talking with a couple comgressmen--one from each party--they both admitted that is exactly what happened. They were able to have their staffs look through parts of it before it went on line, so they had a couple hours instead of 3 minutes--but in essence that is the case. Most have no idea about some of the things hidden in the bill, good or bad.

It is a major indightment of the 500+ members as a whole.

The only think I will add to your post is that anyone voting "no" was equally ignorant of what they were voting on.

But no, it isn't a violation of any rules/laws that I know--just responsibility. But they did that long before voting on this bill.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

According to Rand Paul, the Fiscal bill was posted online at 1:36AM and voted on at 1:39AM. If this is true, then it would mean that:

1. a copy was never printed
2. nobody read the bill
3. anybody voting yes, voted for a bill they never saw

Shouldn't that be a violation of something?

This bill is going to fail as horribly as the Obamacare bill did and the stimulus bill before it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=8HwBvUojs7o#!

[Whirlaway]

Obama signed something while on vacation in Hawaii.............

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...l-from-hawaii/

First president to do "electronic signatures" on legislation.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Obama signed something while on vacation in Hawaii.............

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...l-from-hawaii/

First president to do "electronic signatures" on legislation.

WTF is wrong with that? It's 2013 for Chrissakes!

[Whirlaway]

Again, AssUp proves that the "stupid group" is with Obama...................

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Again, AssUp proves that the "stupid group" is with Obama...................

I bet your grandfather bitched about FDR not using a feather pen and quill!

[Whirlaway]

I think electronic signing is fine; why do you dumbed-down characters always jump to the wrong conclusions ?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Everyday you prove my point = Obama supporters are the dumbest, most uninformed electorate we have had in America !

[CJ7]

why not fault the bastards for not reaching an agreement L-O-N-G before the last damn minute ?

no laws were broken but nonetheless, anyone that thinks every member of congress reads every bill start to finish regardless of how much time they allow themselves is an idget ... we elect raido station owners and people from damn near every background you can imagine, even if these jerks read the bill do you actually think thay could understand what they read ..

next contestant with a real point, please

[fetishfreak]

Originally Posted by CJ7

why not fault the bastards for not reaching an agreement L-O-N-G before the last damn minute ?

no laws were broken but nonetheless, anyone that thinks every member of congress reads every bill start to finish regardless of how much time they allow themselves is an idget ... we elect raido station owners and people from damn near every background you can imagine, even if these jerks read the bill do you actually think thay could understand what they read ..

next contestant with a real point, please

Because 70+ % of the voting public (location dependent) will vote for the guy with a D or an R no matter what. They do not want to take the time to learn anything about the candidates. Even the ones that vote in the primary will be more likely to vote based on one or two issues or based on what some member of the press or radio talk show says is "most electable candidate."

[CJ7]

I posted the results of the newly elected congressmen/women, and their backround/s after the election

pizza parlor owners, radio station owners, car dealership owners and the list wen on ..

stands to reason the people here bitching about congress not reading a bill before they vote on it .... they need someone intelligent like a pizza guy to explain it to them ..

[Yssup Rider]

I just think Rand Paul didn't know... makes sense.

[fetishfreak]

Originally Posted by CJ7

I posted the results of the newly elected congressmen/women, and their backround/s after the election

pizza parlor owners, radio station owners, car dealership owners and the list wen on ..

stands to reason the people here bitching about congress not reading a bill before they vote on it .... they need someone intelligent like a pizza guy to explain it to them ..

A persons job does not necessarily reflect their intelligence.

That being said, I can see no evidence that any of the members of congress ever read the bill. When would they have time? Every major piece of legislation always has some hidden gems in them, even the small ones do.

It is a way for the politicians to control each other by making sure that there is dirt available on all of them.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by CJ7

I posted the results of the newly elected congressmen/women, and their backround/s after the election

pizza parlor owners, radio station owners, car dealership owners and the list wen on ..

stands to reason the people here bitching about congress not reading a bill before they vote on it .... they need someone intelligent like a pizza guy to explain it to them ..

They weren't elected to vote on bills they haven't read. Obama promised to have all bills posted online for 5 days before he signed them. Oh, yeah. That was a lie, too.

If they haven't read the bill, or don't understand it, it is their duty to vote against it until they have had time to both read it, and understand it. If they can't understand the bill, they need to hire trusted aides who can do that for them.

It is the height of irresponsibility to vote "yes" on a bill you haven't read or don't understand. It is tyrannical of the leaders to demand a vote in favor of a bill the representative hasn't read or doesn't understand.

The entire Congress should be impeached for this practice, and Obama should be impeached for lying about transparency.

[Yssup Rider]

Bills THEY haven't read? You think those rubes Have ever READ that shit?

Pretty simple simple fool you are, Unahomo!