DOJ/Jack Smith just admitted to Evidence tampering

[texassapper]

EVIDENCE TAMPERING? Biden DOJ/Jack Smith just admitted they messed with boxes supposedly containing "classified" documents they seized from Trump and can't be sure the order or placement of the documents as originally found has been maintained -- which is contrary to what they assured the court!

Footnote 3: The Government acknowledges that this is inconsistent with what Government counsel
previously understood and represented to the Court. See, e.g., 4/12/24 Hearing Tr. at 65
(Government responding to the Court’s question of whether the boxes were “in their original, intact
form as seized” by stating “[t]hey are, with one exception; and that is that the classified documents
have been removed and placeholders have been put in the documents”

And here is an admission of the FBI completely screwing with the classified documents:

"After the boxes were brought to WFO, the FBI created an index to correlate the documents with classification markings to codes (e.g., document “bb”) and labeled the classified cover sheets in the boxes with the codes for the seized documents. The FBI also generally replaced the handwritten sheets with classified cover sheets annotated with the index code, but regardless, any handwritten sheets that currently remain in the boxes do not represent additional classified documents—they were just not removed when the classified cover sheets with the index code were added. In many but not all instances, the FBI was able to determine which document with classification markings corresponded to a particular placeholder sheet."

Ooopsies.

[royamcr]

Thought trump declassified all of them.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by royamcr

Thought trump declassified all of them.

They aren't interested in anything classified. They are looking for anything that may incriminate Biden and the Democratic Party. They are just telling the public they are in this big investigation about Trump and Classified documents.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by royamcr

Thought trump declassified all of them.

... He did.

... But there's EVIDENCE of "evidence tampering"...

... GAME OVER for Mr. Smith and his cases. ...

#### Salty

[Precious_b]

Hmmm.

Was there anything proved that items went missing or where added?

[Salty Again]

... Doesn't even need to get that-far.
... Tainted so.

#### Salty

[texassapper]

“Special counsel Jack Smith’s team acknowledged Friday that some evidence in the prosecution of former President Donald Trump for hoarding classified documents at his Florida home may not be in the same sequence FBI agents found it. The concession from prosecutors in a court filing Friday afternoon came after attorneys for one of Trump’s co-defendants asked for a delay in the case because the defense lawyers were having trouble determining precisely where particular documents had come from in the 33 boxes the FBI seized almost two years ago.

This may nave become important because it has become evident that NARA coordinated with the White House and the FBI on a transfer of a couple pallets worth of boxes that had been in temp storage in DC w/ NARA. The documents were transferred to Mar-a-lago w/o being processed by NARA. In effect, if any documents are found in the cases that were transferred by the govt to be evidence against the defendents, the argument could be made that the govt. placed them in the boxes, forced the transfer and then raided the place to find the boxes they transferred. ie. a set up. It's not conclusive of course, simply a defense, but that's why chain of custody is important.

In their filing, prosecutors acknowledged the government had previously — and incorrectly — told U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon that the boxes remained ‘in their original, intact form as seized,’ other than a decision to replace classified documents with placeholder sheets.”

There's a word for lying to the court about evidence, but I can't recall what it might be....

[Tsmokies]

So what??? Maybe Dark Brandon told him to

[yeahsurewhatev]

I'll keep this simple, but I'm sure you'll still try not to follow it -

How does creating better understood indices to replace the original handwritten ones alter the evidence? How does that "impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation"?

Squirrel! Squirrel!

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by yeahsurewhatev

I'll keep this simple, but I'm sure you'll still try not to follow it -

How does creating better understood indices to replace the original handwritten ones alter the evidence? How does that "impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation"?

Squirrel! Squirrel!

Since the box contents are NOT as they were discovered, and as the Government claimed, it is not inconceivable that the contents of the boxes, or the documents themselves had been altered. All the government said they did was put a cover sheet on classified documents... thats it. Yet somehow, the box contents have changed. How did that happen? When did that happen? And because it DID happen, the government cannot claim that the boxes had classified info in them... Trump lawyers can argue that the evidence has been tampered with. And it has been tampered with...the government admits that.

Evidence that is corrupted is no longer evidence.

But that's what you get when you're running a political operation not a criminal prosecution.

[yeahsurewhatev]

So, essentially what you’re saying is that if the government examined the evidence there’s no reason to believe they didn’t alter the evidence. The only way you would believe the boxes contained classified documents is if they hadn’t been opened, in which case you would say there’s no way to know they contained classified documents. Sounds like an audition for Trump’s legal team.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

So NARA shipped them. Oh wait, they couldn't at first, because they (get this...) put them on an oversided pallet that would not fit in the elevator. They had to be unpalleted and repalleted before shipping them to Mar-a-Lago. Then the FBI rearranged them again at the other end.


Too many hands in the cookie boxes...

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Doesn't even need to get that-far.
... Tainted so.

#### Salty

The Devil made them do it.

Everybody knows they're out to get Trump!

[txdot-guy]

Every thing posted here regarding the admissibility of the evidence is strictly conjecture at this point. For all we know removing the classified documents and replacing them with placeholders is the standard procedure for handling the classified documents. This entire thread is both speculative and illogical.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

For all we know removing the classified documents and replacing them with placeholders is the standard procedure for handling the classified documents. This entire thread is both speculative and illogical.

I will write slowly so maybe you can understand.

One of the defendents' lawyers was trying to determine the source of a document. During that research he uncovered the fact that it didn't originate from the storage box or box(s) as asserted by the DOJ. The prosecution had to ADMIT that they lied to the court about the contents of the boxes being EXACTLY as found. The DOJ characterizes this as an oversight... whoops we fcuked up but it wasn't on purpose. Guess what happens when you make an oversight in a statement to the FBI?

But there is a STRAIGHT UP ADMISSION that the prosecution lied by claiming that the contents were not re-arranged, altered or changed in any way other than the coversheet substitutions for the classified documents.

So in summary, there is NO SPECULATION. The government ADMITS that the evidence has been altered.

How was it altered? We will NEVER know the truth... thats why chain of custody issues destroys court cases.

The admission means documents COULD have been altered, added, or removed after the FBI seized them during their little Raid on Mar-a-lago. I'm not saying that happened, but the FBI can't prove that it didn't.

Considering that the FBI lied about Hunters Laptop, lied to a FISA court judge to obtain warrantless wiretapping of Trump, and then 50 intel agents lied about the veracity of the Hunter laptop, and the FBI violated FISA search laws 278,0000 times, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Thats the problem with lying... nobody believes ANYTHING you say.