What Direction Is The US Moving?

[DFW5Traveler]

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
   Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
   Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
   Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
   Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
   Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
   Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
   Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
   Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
   Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
    Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education". These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested!! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

BTW, the items in red are the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto. What direction do you see the country moving toward?
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[Sisyphus]

Glenn Beck, is that you?????? [Damnit! Where is the ":rim shot:" smilie??]


Ok, now that I've gotten the cheap shot out of my system...

If you HONESTLY believe the US is going to hell in a hand-basket in the manners listed...

AND...

...you SERIOUSLY think a SHMB is the place to begin putting it right...

THEN...

...you NEED another hobby. This ain't for you!




P.S. Oh yeah.... there's nothing new under the sun.....

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[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by DFW5Traveler

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
   Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
   Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
   Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
   Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
   Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
   Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
   Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
   Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
   Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
    Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education". These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested!! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

BTW, the items in red are the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto. What direction do you see the country moving toward?

Guess there are nuts in every crowd!!!

[DFW5Traveler]

I guess you didn't read the question, gentlemen. Let me yell it in your general direction. Turn up your hearing aids please. WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU SEE THE COUNTRY MOVING TOWARD? I'd wager that not one person on this site can claim that this is the same country they grew up in 20 to 50 years ago.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by DFW5Traveler

I guess you didn't read the question, gentlemen. Let me yell it in your general direction. Turn up your hearing aids please. WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU SEE THE COUNTRY MOVING TOWARD? I'd wager that not one person on this site can claim that this is the same country they grew up in 20 to 50 years ago.

Nor is it the same country today as it was a year ago. Nothing stays stagnant over time. What's your point?

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by DFW5Traveler

I guess you didn't read the question, gentlemen. Let me yell it in your general direction. Turn up your hearing aids please. WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU SEE THE COUNTRY MOVING TOWARD? I'd wager that not one person on this site can claim that this is the same country they grew up in 20 to 50 years ago.

It is not; in many ways that is a good thing.

[pjorourke]

Has anyone called "hell in hand basket" as a direction?

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Has anyone called "hell in hand basket" as a direction?

Texans use it rather liberally..oops, excuse me...know that's a dirty word for many...make that "frequently" for down hill.

Come on, PJ.... consider my handle. I only know TWO directions & that's ONE of 'em!!!!

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by DFW5Traveler

I guess you didn't read the question, gentlemen. Let me yell it in your general direction. Turn up your hearing aids please. WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU SEE THE COUNTRY MOVING TOWARD? I'd wager that not one person on this site can claim that this is the same country they grew up in 20 to 50 years ago.

I read it. I refuse to answer leading questions like the OP, counselor. Sorry to disappoint...

About all I will say is that I get sick & tired of this pathetic lament, "...this is not the same country I grew up in!" Closely followed by, "...we're LOSING our country to fill-in-the-blank-with-your-undesireable-group-here!!"

My personal opinion is that it's fear-mongering directed towards a specific purpose.

But, to reiterate, having such a discussion on a SHMB is about as useless as tits on a bull.

See....told y'all I've been down here too long!

[TexTushHog]

If you're so unhappy, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! And 99+% of what you wrote is fantasy. Maybe if you put some more tinfoil in you hat, the voices inside your head will pipe down.

[nevergaveitathought]

I think every person should pay at least some tax. everyone needs to be a part of it and every time there is an increase in tax it needs to hit everyone, not just the upper tier.

I dont care how much someone makes, they can pay some tax.

thats just not the way its working now with perhaps 40% or more paying zero, and a lot of them even getting back much more than even thier social security in the form of earned income credits.

I think its to the country's shame and long-term destruction.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Maybe if you put some more tinfoil in you hat, the voices inside your head will pipe down.

[DFW5Traveler]

Hypocrit much?

Originally Posted by CT2005

To divide all persons into two groups and denigrate one of those groups is asinine to the nth degree. To take the position that all liberals don't operate in reality and are charged with emotions shows very shallow thinking. Furthermore, to say all conservatives are realists (and by extension, unemotional) is also very shallow thinking.

But it's OK, to jump on TTH's bandwagon? To what degree are your bandwagon views CT? Did the original post in any way denigrate any group?

And back to old tricks again... Can a leopard really change his spots?

It's a shame some people can't come up with an original thought.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by DFW5Traveler

And back to old tricks again... Can a leopard really change his spots?

That was a low down cheap shot.

[DFW5Traveler]

Originally Posted by Ansley

That was a low down cheap shot.

Was it?