Why Not Peacefully Secede Now?

[DSK]

Shouldn't states have the freedom to leave the United States?

I can't see anything in all the equality and freedom rhetoric that contraindicates it.

Are the modern liberals afraid that Texas would succeed without their draconian federal control?

Would they bomb us like a desert Muslim with their drones to force us to appreciate the freedom of the United States?

Would they trade freely with the entire world, including Cuba, but ban trade with us?

I don't see anything in the Constitution that could stand in the way.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by DSK

Shouldn't states have the freedom to leave the United States?

I can't see anything in all the equality and freedom rhetoric that contraindicates it.

Are the modern liberals afraid that Texas would succeed without their draconian federal control?

Would they bomb us like a desert Muslim with their drones to force us to appreciate the freedom of the United States?

Would they trade freely with the entire world, including Cuba, but ban trade with us?

I don't see anything in the Constitution that could stand in the way.

Look a little harder.

And while you are at it, try to see if you can find a state that has a majority of people willing to secede because gays can get married. There isn't one. NOT EVEN TEXAS.

[Jackie S]

What would stand in the way would be the military might of The United States.

Think of what Sherman did on his "March to the sea".

The precident was set in 1861. The Southern a States had every right to leave the Union.

But.......they had to win the war.

In short, no State can peacefully secede, because the federal government will not allow it.

[Yssup Rider]

Tyranny.

Or in your case, TRanny!

Hey JL, the faggots won! The faggots won!

So fuuuuuck yOuuuuuu!

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

What would stand in the way would be the military might of The United States.

Think of what Sherman did on his "March to the sea".

The precident was set in 1861. The Southern a States had every right to leave the Union.

But.......they had to win the war.

In short, no State can peacefully secede, because the federal government will not allow it.

Actually, they don't have the right to secede.

"But each State having expressly parted with so many powers as to constitute jointly with the other States a single nation, cannot from that period possess any right to secede"

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Actually, they don't have the right to secede.

"But each State having expressly parted with so many powers as to constitute jointly with the other States a single nation, cannot from that period possess any right to secede"

Where is that quote from?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Tyranny.

Or in your case, TRanny!

Hey JL, the faggots won! The faggots won!

So fuuuuuck yOuuuuuu!

Congratulations Faggot, lol. Are ya happy now?


Jim

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Where is that quote from?

You know how magicians pull rabbits out of hats? Well the infamous WR pull that one out of his ass. It's what he does best, lol.


Jim

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Look a little harder.

And while you are at it, try to see if you can find a state that has a majority of people willing to secede because gays can get married. There isn't one. NOT EVEN TEXAS.

Like the first Civil War was not all about slavery, a second Civil War is not going to be all about gay marriage. You're living through history so pay attention. It may take an oral history to get the facts down correctly since we can't exactly trust the press to get it right. If any states decide to secede in any way, shape, or form then it will be because of a preponderance ills heaped upon the population by DC. It won't be just one.

We've discussed secession before many times on this board and the idiots on the left always come on out with the same tired cliches. Grey uniforms, Confederate flags, and slavery again which just show how incredibly stupid they want to stay. A new secession will start with lawyers, lots of lawyers creating the boundaries of a new country. Then there will be the political poker game of how far will by opponent go and how much can I bluff him. If a country is allowed to stake a claim then will come the PR phase when the left will demonize the new country and their intent. They will try to activate certain groups to "rise up" and rejoin the Union or at least cause enough problems that the new country can't function or more likely, try to get the new country to take draconian measures to restore order. Then the Union can put troops on the border (ala Russia) to "save" those who want to stay in the Union. They will have already dispatched special forces types to rally and train the instigators in the new country (false flag?). The Union will test the water by taking back a couple of border cities to check the reaction. The Union will not have it their way though. There will be many in the Union that will want to move themselves to the new nation (that is the purpose of the PR campaign by the Union, to discourage this by saying the new country is evil or illegal). There will be many in the armed forces who will refuse to take up arms against peaceful citizens. Obama has been trying to winnow out the generals and top commanders who would do this by retiring them but they would have to be put in "isolation" to prevent their public comments or worse, have them join the new country.

In the meantime, our enemies in the world would not sit on their asses watching. Putin would finish off the Ukraine, China would move on the Philippines, North Korea would go after South Korea, Venezuela might decide to take a chunk of someone to distract from their troubles at home, and ISIS....they will love this situation.

Not because of gay marriage or the Confederate flag but because of a host of transgressions committed over the years and the fear of future actions taken against American citizens.

As for the legality, Jefferson said that against tyranny a people have a right to rebel. Even if that tyranny is in Washington DC. You know, I wonder which side Clinton (Bill) would go to. The side of freedom or the side that forces him to stayed married to the Hildebeast.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by DSK

Shouldn't states have the freedom to leave the United States?

I can't see anything in all the equality and freedom rhetoric that contraindicates it.

Are the modern liberals afraid that Texas would succeed without their draconian federal control?

Would they bomb us like a desert Muslim with their drones to force us to appreciate the freedom of the United States?

Would they trade freely with the entire world, including Cuba, but ban trade with us?

I don't see anything in the Constitution that could stand in the way.

JLIdiot, errr DSKIdiot, you might cancel your next defection to Israel, now that you and your <ahem> "significant other" can legally "tie be knot."

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

What would stand in the way would be the military might of The United States.

That's funny right there.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

That's funny right there.

What is even more funny is how LLIdiot staunchly defended his man Shrubby's illogical Spring of 2003 invasion of Iraq ... before ... during ... and after ... the actual invasion occurred.

Now the Patriarchal Idiot is running and hiding from the invasion ... as if it never occurred.

How about answering the following simple question, LLIdiot?

"If you knew during the Spring of 2003 what we know now, would you have (strike the word "still") supported the invasion of Iraq?"

As for me, the answer to the question is "still" NO!

What's your answer, LLIdiot?

[i'va biggen]

As usual the JL, and judy dense are ramping up their rhetoric of the destruction of the USA.

[Whirlaway]

Secession (by a state) won't happen over cultural issues like gay rights; it will happen when money is the issue - property rights, taxation, debt, etc.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Succession (by a state)

TrendingIdiot, please describe the process that the state must first go through in order to accomplish "succession (by a state)."