Does the US have a "secret" weapon?

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Grow up.

Stick it up your feathered ass.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

If you go back and review the literature including the written reports and communications among the engineers and scientists you will find an in depth discussion about conducting a "live" demonstration. There was a movement among the scientists to inform the Japanese of the potential of the weapon systems.

Military personnel opposed a live demonstration to Japanese.

And I'll ask you again. "Have you ever visited at length with anyone who was deeply involved in the Manhattan Project"?

A problem you may have, just like a lot of other history, is the absence of internet links to "corroborate" information and conclusively confirm something that happened 70+ years ago.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/trumanatomicbomb.htm

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

If you go back and review the literature including the written reports and communications among the engineers and scientists you will find an in depth discussion about conducting a "live" demonstration. There was a movement among the scientists to inform the Japanese of the potential of the weapon systems.

Military personnel opposed a live demonstration to Japanese.

And I'll ask you again. "Have you ever visited at length with anyone who was deeply involved in the Manhattan Project"?

A problem you may have, just like a lot of other history, is the absence of internet links to "corroborate" information and conclusively confirm something that happened 70+ years ago.

No, I haven't visited at length with anyone involved in the original Manhattan Project. Have you? I don't rely only, or even primarily, on internet links to corroborate history. Many of the scientists involved in the Manhattan Project have written books, published memoirs, and/or been interviewed for well-researched documentaries produced by the History, Smithsonian, National Geographic Channels, etc. Even FOX has carried episodes on Oliver North's "War Stories" detailing this subject.

One of the left-wing revisionist critiques of Truman's decision to drop the bomb on Hiroshima/Nagasaki is that we should have given the Japanese a demonstration of its destructive power before we used it. To the extent that you can prove this was actually done, it would help to refute such criticism. However, from your last post it sounds like it was merely a recommendation, not an option that was accepted by Truman or something that actually occurred.

[Hotrod511]

Originally Posted by bamscram

You never have a question DSK just insults.
Good you have your pussy lips around rod.

you are one dumb monkey the first post I made in this thread was a question read post #27 your first post #18 was a insult at President Trump so fuck off retarded lenny
Ekim with his buddies of the reach around crew

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by Hotrod511

you are one dumb monkey the first post I made in this thread was a question read post #27 your first post #18 was a insult at President Trump so fuck off retarded lenny
Ekim with his buddies of the reach around crew

Read my answer at post #28 chicken lips.
You came on the forum talking the ekim shit JL, fuck off.
You are just another fucking stupid lemming.
You retards are a dime a dozen.

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by Hotrod511

you are one dumb monkey the first post I made in this thread was a question read post #27 your first post #18 was a insult at President Trump so fuck off retarded lenny
Ekim with his buddies of the reach around crew

careful now you are about to be called "butt stupid"

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

careful now you are about to be called "butt stupid"

Another parrot has joined. Welcome butt stupid.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by bamscram

eeehbuhhhrrrr, daddy say's it's time to home...

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by bamscram

Another parrot has joined. Welcome butt stupid.

if you google "butt stupid" nothing comes up

more 3rd grader terms?

[Yssup Rider]

Poor JL.

Didn't take long for his inimitable rhetoric to out himself.

Happy New Year!!!

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

A lesson regarding the Kuwait matter is the lack of clarity with respect to the consequences if Saddam attacked Kuwait. It's basically the same thing. Except this time the "muzzle" is pointed in our direction.

Too much "weight" has been placed on a "first strike" strategy and unfortunately launching a "retaliation" strike in response to a NK first strike on U.S. soil is unacceptably too late.

AND letting them GET the missiles and nuke built is exactly what we will wind up having to deal with.. WHICH IS WHY we should be doing all we can to stop them.

OR would you rather wait till they bomb Seattle, San fransisco, Guam or Alaska, THEN Talk about 'retaliating'??

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by lustylad

No, I haven't visited at length with anyone involved in the original Manhattan Project. Have you?

Yes. A physicist. Roughly 50 years ago over a period of months on a regular weekly basis regarding information related to various matters involving the policies and strategies associated with the development, deployment, and use of nuclear weapon systems.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by garhkal

OR would you rather wait till they bomb Seattle, San fransisco, Guam or Alaska, THEN Talk about 'retaliating'??

When you say "you," are YOU addressing the question to me?

If so, you need to be addressing it to someone else.

I'm not opposed to a preemptive strike to prevent NK (or any other nation) from launching an attack on the U.S., any country in which we have a military presence, or any ally of the United States.

In the absence of specific, verified information regarding weapon systems (offensive or defensive) that can neutralize any threat from NK of either nuclear or conventional weapons without the necessity of deploying our own nuclear arsenal, I would be in favor of a first strike policy. To connect the dots I have been for over 50 years.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by lustylad

One of the left-wing revisionist critiques of Truman's decision to drop the bomb on Hiroshima/Nagasaki is that we should have given the Japanese a demonstration of its destructive power before we used it. To the extent that you can prove this was actually done, it would help to refute such criticism. However, from your last post it sounds like it was merely a recommendation, not an option that was accepted by Truman or something that actually occurred.

That's not a "revisionist" theory ... there are documents in existence in which it was discussed and recommended. I have never viewed it as a "criticism" of the Truman administration.

The "debate" was where and how to do a live demonstration for the Japanese to observe before actually striking the Japanese mainland. That is distinctively different than providing information about the extent of the damage that the weapon could cause if deployed.

If you study the history it will tell you the Russians knew about the first test and our progress in the development. It was not formally provided to the Russians, but was delivered by a "spy" in the program, and the Russians didn't acknowledge they knew at the time. They, like the Germans, were working on their own device.

On a less controversial topic, which I have already mentioned in the "collusion" thread I started ... while people in this country are "debating" the Russian "war" on the U.S. we have SCIENTISTS who are working with RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS in cooperation on programs in which we have common interest. During the "COLD WAR" we had cultural exchange programs and science exchange programs with the Russians. Educational, cultural, and scientific programs "collude" with one another during times that are tense between nations. It's common and has gone on for decades.

"Refuting" liberal thought is not a goal of mine. Ignoring it as a viable alternative is a practice, although given the opportunity, time, and resources I will oppose it, if opposition to it is important for my personal status or the status of someone who requests me to do so and interests me sufficiently to address the issue(s).

The same with offensive conservative "thought"!

[Hotrod511]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Poor JL.

Didn't take long for his inimitable rhetoric to out himself.

Happy New Year!!!

You are just as dumb as the monkey asswipe but keep trying you might figure it out some day