I wish men were more truly passionate...

[Zabrina Sarafina]

Originally Posted by proudoftexas

Says the person who is complaining about men not having any passion? Who exactly has been missing out? Me? Or you?
I'm not saying one way or another, but I will point out it's a hypocritical statement on your part to make in any case.

Since you seem to be so confused yet engrossed by all of this lol, let me clarify. Because I am accustomed and rather spoiled with seeing gentlemen that I really mesh well with ....when I have the (thankfully rare) unfortunate circumtance of meeting one of those mechanical hobbyists - it's really a downer. Kills it. I don't hobby often, so when I do I put in alot of planning, effort, desire ....I expect to be a blast for both of us. There's much more I could say about this but would be too much for a forum like this

Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

Maybe you should visit Houston sometime

The only thing appealing to me in visiting texas are those bull riding cowboys. At least there's guaranteed passion there ...unless they're all gay

Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

You are starting to sound more and more like my wife!!

Marriage material but not marriage minded

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

. . . I think you just need a strong man to ravish you and you haven't found him yet.

Yes well it appears most men have been sissified ...what I mean by that is the culture we live in has suppressed male sexual energy, yet fully promoted the glorification of genitals - like that's all that matters

Originally Posted by cabletex7

Not enough passion????
You're smoking @#$%^ and hanging around the wrong threads.
Passion thy name is Kusmaldo who reminds you to "put the fucking lotion in the basket" every night.
Or FG (sorry buddy; didn't see you) who gives Kusmaldo a run for his money.

And you're welcome.

hanging around the wrong hobby you mean ....yes it is time for me to divert my energies more into civvie courtship

Originally Posted by Calista_Syn

I think you need to book engagements with different clients! I've had my fair share of dead fish, but usually, my "work" dates show me more passion than my previous SO!

Thats a huge issue with the bizz and me personally though, I've become addicted to the feeling of being the sole and absolute center of a mans carnal attentions.. Nothing less than every drop will do now.. I adore feeling the tension building, and knowing that he has ONE thing on his mind, and I'm in control of how to exploit and manipulate it until he's bonkers. Some guys need a little coaxing just because it's an odd situation, and they are a little timid, but it's in no short supply. Hell, from my experience, I have to tone my gent back a bit so he doesn't finish before I'm ready for him to!

don't even get me started on the dead fish..

Originally Posted by zerodahero

It is hard to be passionate with a woman you just met. That happens after a few visits.

There some exceptions. Like Calista said we need a little coaxing sometimes.

FEf$@F#$ r$!!! You've never looked at a stranger and wanted to pounce right there. Do you have proper functioning drive? You talking about "coaxing" .....so it must be a psychological thing for you. I see

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

My only issue with your post is you confuse passion with virility. Viagra doesn't ensure passion. Just a hard on.

What has to happen for passion to ignite is that both parties have to see that spark first. Communication, flirtation and commonality facilitate that. And no matter how different the people, as long as they're open to it, it can usually be found.

Don't be hating on my now infamous viagra cocktails ...

viagra is the Elixir of Life People

Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

Passion requires trust, and there's no room for that in this business.

Damn you're a cold one

Originally Posted by austxjr

I find a lot of ladies aren't the "freaks", nymphos, courtesans or concubines they market that they are either so I figure pretty much all of us are just trying to get better at it while either making money, enjoying it or both.

Probably because they are high volume and burned out

Originally Posted by Mr. O'Doul

I like girls that are secure enough in their own bodies that they can deal with a guy treating their bodies with the attention they deserve.

Indeed

Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

Sometimes a date could be days, weeks, months in the making during which time the interaction can be very conducive to stirring passion/lust for two people. This is my preference. However, there can be some confusion between lust and passion. Lust is fleeting...passion lingers....

Oh lust lingers

Originally Posted by emptywallet

You are an interactive performance artist where the level of interaction is optional. It sounds like your clients are content to relax and watch the show. You might have to change your show to change the level and quality of interaction, or you might have to find a way to change your clientele to get what you want. Keep in mind that they may want to receive passion or to be treated passionately. Being passionate to/for you may not be high on the list of your clientele.

No it's not optional. I am always wary of seeing someone who displays no emotion/enthusiasm/passion in their request. In other words, I avoid seeing jaded hobbyists. You know what I'm talking about? They are like mechanical robots - there's nothing there. Waste of time

[proudoftexas]

Originally Posted by Zabrina Sarafina

Since you seem to be so confused yet engrossed by all of this lol, let me clarify. Because I am accustomed and rather spoiled with seeing gentlemen that I really mesh well with ....when I have the (thankfully rare) unfortunate circumtance of meeting one of those mechanical hobbyists - it's really a downer. Kills it. I don't hobby often, so when I do I put in alot of planning, effort, desire ....I expect to be a blast for both of us.

Your initial post is an overgeneralization. Now this post reveals you're whining about the rare men who don't fulfill your expectation for what a hobbyist should be, rather than bragging on the "gentlemen that [you] really mesh well with," while you started by wondering why men in general are not more passionate. Turns out it's not men in general. It's the few robots you see.

Hey, it's your thread, and you're putting up several on the national forum that are thought provoking and generating discussion. Including this one.

I think your worldview is fucked, but that's just from my perspective. You're obviously doing fine for yourself, so more power to you. You definitely make the site more interesting. I'd much rather have someone around whose viewpoint I don't see eye to eye with than someone with whom I'm always agreeing, so I hope you keep posting.

[Bigh1955]

Hello Zabrina,
Passion! Is it the product of our greatest obsession, or do we obsess over those we are passionate about? Who is the chicken? Who is the egg? Yes damnit! I can't stop thinking about you. If you weren't filling my mind I'm afraid I'd forget to breath...and when I'm with you...hahaha...I become deliriously happy...complete...knowing we complete each other in every possible way! ...And then reality strikes!

Passion is THE essential ingredient that distinquishes "making love" from "having sex." You ask for a dangerous gift, one that often comes with all sorts of emotional baggage, or expectations that exceed the boundaries of the "hobby" engagement. Be careful who you share your passion with...they will, in some way or another, come to LOVE you. Passion has two faces: one is loving and kind, giving, happy - the other is jealous, fearful, and mean. The fire of this passion is equally hot on both sides of the pan. You can't get one without the other - not if you want true passion.

That said, there is nothing more wonderful, consumming, fulfilling, and earth-shakingly amazing than the sex that comes from a passion filled relationship. Enjoy it while it lasts. Good luck!

[Guest110516]

Originally Posted by Zabrina Sarafina

No it's not optional. I am always wary of seeing someone who displays no emotion/enthusiasm/passion in their request. In other words, I avoid seeing jaded hobbyists. You know what I'm talking about? They are like mechanical robots - there's nothing there. Waste of time

Sure it is. Otherwise, you wouldn't be complaining about the lack of passion. Granted, you may never see the jaded, mechanical ones more than once, but in that first meeting, you can't force a client to be passionate if he's not into it. Ergo: the level of interaction is optional.

[boardman]

^^^^^^^^^This is passion!

[Prolongus]

I think some of us here (both guys and girls) will suppress a sincere passionate response from the other person for fear of them wanting more than a 1-hour appointment.

It's a bit one-sided against you ladies because reviews will say she was very passionate or...she didn't show any passion towards me at all...

I just want to laugh with you and have a physical, sexual fun time.
And get your real address so I can come over at 3:00AM to peer in to your bedroom window. ;-)

[Gotyour6]

Find a BF lol

[proudoftexas]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Find a BF lol

Given her unrealistic expectations of a relationship, I feel bad for the guy who fills that role unless he's going in with his eyes wide open.

[Liliana Vess]

I feel sad for you that you feel the need to ridicule the guys on here that expressed that they prefer to have trust or a longer emotional connection with someone in order to feel passion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, except that it doesn't play into your fantasies.

Originally Posted by Zabrina Sarafina

Thank you to all the real gentlemen who reached out to me on here ...as well as private. Looks like time is arriving when I'll be spreading my wings ....and doing some exploration

But hey, the threAD worked, so congrats. I am sure you will be so consumed by passion that you'll forget all about compensation....

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Liliana Vess

I feel sad for you that you feel the need to ridicule the guys on here that expressed that they prefer to have trust or a longer emotional connection with someone in order to feel passion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, except that it doesn't play into your fantasies.




But hey, the threAD worked, so congrats. I am sure you will be so consumed by passion that you'll forget all about compensation....

There is no passion without attention to the taint.

[Fast Gunn]

Well, it might be awkward at first, but I do not think that it would be "hard".

. . . Sometimes, you both are very well matched and soon the flames will engulf you. The feeling is hard to pin-point, but you feel it like a gentle breeze when it happens usually before you even begin to see it.

Originally Posted by zerodahero

It is hard to be passionate with a woman you just met. That happens after a few visits.

There some exceptions. Like Calista said we need a little coaxing sometimes.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by Liliana Vess

I feel sad for you that you feel the need to ridicule the guys on here that expressed that they prefer to have trust or a longer emotional connection with someone in order to feel passion.

Count me in as one of the guys. There's been lust and great sex, but very rarely true passion. There has to be trust and a whole lotta "like" going on for me to have passion.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by Zabrina Sarafina

They claim to want passion, to reclaim the missing passion in their personal lives, yet when faced and handed the opportunity, I have observed they have no clue what to do with it

I admit I have often had thoughts to carry around viagra to accidentally slip into a wineglass ...maybe that would "help" ...though I'm not sure the safety repercussions of it, Though upon further research I have read some guys have plenty of drinks with viagra and do just fine ...really fine!

Anywhoo, back to lack of passion. I'm curious if it's the nervousness, anxiety, insecurity ...or what that makes a man freeze when it comes to the stage where you can let yourself go. What especially amuses me is when the same men are talented in highly passionate erotica writing skills ...what they like, what they want done to them, what they would like to do ...yet when the time comes, they are like fragile sedate ninnies; conservative housewives

Disappointment after disapointment

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding of passion

What is passion?

Having a prescription drug in your possession that is not prescribed for you would be breaking the law. Viagra is a prescription drug. I don't know if any Attorneys have brought that up already. Give your client some Vitamin E or oysters. You don't want to have in your possession a prescription drug that has not been prescribed for you.

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[Hermosa]

I really like to hear what the ladies have to say. I just hope they aren't just saying what they think the guys(customers) want to hear. Passion to me is losing one's sense of time and control. It's losing yourself to the feel, the looks, the smells of "Her". It hard to find in a short first meeting. I tend to ask for at least more than one hour to at least help out this process. I try to communicate before the meeting concerning what would be great, fun, intoxicating to really help me lose myself in you. My dilemma with doing this is getting the typical response like "sounds like fun", and we meet and it's like nothing. No seduction, no comfort level, no nothing. Do you ladies really read anything we try to give you? I have yet to meet a lady who will let me know what she would like. And I don't mean you telling me what you think I want to hear. I know you are more than just a hobbyist. I am more than that also. Who is really interested in a short time where we can just take a recess(time out), from our lives and just enjoy a little mutual respect and fun????