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Old 10-02-2015, 02:40 PM   #46
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So many things....why didn't you cite Chicago with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. Should be one safe city don't you think?

I lived in San Fran for a few months about 15 years ago. As for crime, most people don't even report the low level crime in that town because if it is not reported, it didn't happen. I watched a couple of drug deals go down in broad daylight was advised that if they act like they don't see me then I don't see them. San Fran is not as safe as they would have you believe. Especially if you're female and illegals are around.

I'd like you to come up with a theory why Oakland is so violent and San Fran is so peaceful (as you say).

Most people give credit for the reduction in crime in New York Ciy in the 90s to Guilani and aggressive policing not the gun laws.
I guess you didn't access the link to the 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S. CHICAGO DOESN'T MAKE THE LIST!! Stay out of certain areas of Chicago and you are VERY safe.

Certainly there is crime in SF. I have been there many times and there are areas in which I will not go after dark. I am NOT the one writing the articles or reporting the statistics. Some percentage of crime goes unreported in every city, large and small.

Why a higher crime rate in Oakland? Again, I am not the one who compiled the data but facts show that Oakland has much lower per capita income and much higher percentage of people living below the poverty line and a much lower average education level than San Francisco. To me, these factors are much more relevant to crime than gun control laws.

As to exact reasons why crime rises in some years and falls in other years -- no one has the answer. If you want to believe it has to do with aggressive policing, read the text in blue below.

Source: http://nypost.com/2015/06/09/bratton...-bad-old-days/

"In 2011, the NYPD reported about 685,000 reasonable-suspicion stops. That year, rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries and grand larcenies all increased, for an overall rise in index crime of 1.5 percent. Last year, stops had been cut to about 47,400 — or by more than 90 percent — and murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary and grand larceny were all down, for an overall decline in index crime of 4.1 percent."
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:43 PM   #47
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Actually you could own an automatic weapon, assault style rifle, or hand gun in DC...if you knew the right people.
You didn't mention if you could legally or illegally own those weapons.
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Old 10-02-2015, 02:49 PM   #48
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Mr. Heller already had a hand-gun, speedy, he just wanted a permit to store it at home, you dissembling and perpetual jackass. And you're also lying when you deny the similarity of San Francisco gun-laws and D.C.'s pre-Heller gun-laws, speedy. And there's this you were denying -- (AKA "lying about"), speedy:
You should google the definition of "lie" to fully understand of what you are accusing me. You have an opinion and I have an opinion. You are not lying when you express your opinion and neither am I.

Obviously a little too stupid to understand.

Don't worry. I'm sure you are gaining ground on Assup to become 2015's DOTY.
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:05 PM   #49
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Obviously a little too stupid to understand.

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That remark describes you to a "T", speedy. You proved you were too stupid to use Google, and you had your stupid-ass handed to you, jackass.
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:41 PM   #50
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That remark describes you to a "T", speedy. You proved you were too stupid to use Google, and you had your stupid-ass handed to you, jackass.
Damn you are too stupid for words. I finally used Google because you were too damn stupid to simply cite the source yourself. Instead you take MORE time to tell me to Google it myself. F**king idiot.

Yeah, you really handed me my ass. And in case you are more stupid than even I imagine you to be, that is sarcasm. Idiot.
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Old 10-02-2015, 04:01 PM   #51
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I'm always struck by the abject ignorance of this 'argument' that the government is coming for our guns. It's rooted in an utter contempt for our servicemen and women, and it's un-American.

The only logical way the government could come for our guns is to have a unit like the 101st Airborne division roll up your city and go door to door, and shooting yer dumb asses if you resisted the attempt to take your guns. Then they'd have about 1 million other cities and towns to visit.

How fucking retarded do you have to be to think the good and decent men and women of our military would even consider obeying any such orders? Would you? And how much disrespect for these men and women - who played football at your local high school, participated in car washes for charity, babysat your bratty little kids - do you have to have to hold them is such contempt and fear?

Time to lay down this sophomoric fairy tale and try to interact with the real world. You might be limited in getting more guns. How sad for you. You will be less effective against the Islamic hordes, the aliens, and the black helicopters...... Morons.
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Old 10-02-2015, 04:23 PM   #52
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Damn you are too stupid for words. I finally used Google because you were too damn stupid to simply cite the source yourself. Instead you take MORE time to tell me to Google it myself. F**king idiot.

Yeah, you really handed me my ass. And in case you are more stupid than even I imagine you to be, that is sarcasm. Idiot.
It's no wonder you can't Google, speedy; not only are you stupid, you gotta use both hands to lug your ass around, jackass!





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I'm always struck by the abject ignorance of this 'argument' that the government is coming for our guns. It's rooted in an utter contempt for our servicemen and women, and it's un-American.

The only logical way the government could come for our guns is to have a unit like the 101st Airborne division roll up your city and go door to door, and shooting yer dumb asses if you resisted the attempt to take your guns. Then they'd have about 1 million other cities and towns to visit.

How fucking retarded do you have to be to think the good and decent men and women of our military would even consider obeying any such orders? Would you? And how much disrespect for these men and women - who played football at your local high school, participated in car washes for charity, babysat your bratty little kids - do you have to have to hold them is such contempt and fear?

Time to lay down this sophomoric fairy tale and try to interact with the real world. You might be limited in getting more guns. How sad for you. You will be less effective against the Islamic hordes, the aliens, and the black helicopters...... Morons.
You'd be the moronic jackass living in abject ignorance, because it sure as fuck has already happened!

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It's no wonder you can't Google, speedy; not only are you stupid, you gotta use both hands to lug your ass around, jackass!





You'd be the moronic jackass living in abject ignorance, because it sure as fuck has already happened!

If anyone knocked on your door they would get a blow job along with your guns faggot.
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If anyone knocked on your door they would get a blow job along with your guns faggot.
You're the Kansas hayseed with the fetishes, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
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You're the Kansas hayseed with the fetishes, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
Truth hurts you doesn't it dick diver? No fetishes in Kansas chicken dick, unless you cow punchers visit.
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Truth hurts you doesn't it dick diver? No fetishes in Kansas chicken dick, unless you cow punchers visit.
Keep sucking on your cow manure Popsicles, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, that's one of the highlights in your miserable life.
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I'm always struck by the abject ignorance of this 'argument' that the government is coming for our guns. It's rooted in an utter contempt for our servicemen and women, and it's un-American.

The only logical way the government could come for our guns is to have a unit like the 101st Airborne division roll up your city and go door to door, and shooting yer dumb asses if you resisted the attempt to take your guns. Then they'd have about 1 million other cities and towns to visit.

How fucking retarded do you have to be to think the good and decent men and women of our military would even consider obeying any such orders? Would you? And how much disrespect for these men and women - who played football at your local high school, participated in car washes for charity, babysat your bratty little kids - do you have to have to hold them is such contempt and fear?

Time to lay down this sophomoric fairy tale and try to interact with the real world. You might be limited in getting more guns. How sad for you. You will be less effective against the Islamic hordes, the aliens, and the black helicopters...... Morons.
Keep sampling that ocean water son.
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Keep sampling that ocean water son.

That's just Timmy...


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That's just Timmy...


She didn't respond to Tim, dipshit. Another swing and a miss from whiffy.
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"The California DOJ reported 931,000 guns sold last year— three times the number sold in 2004 and the second highest annual number since the department began keeping sales records in 1991."

This is just more bullshit from Admiral Turd Cutter. Gun sales are alive and well in California.
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