I read stories of a man's ruined life due to prostitution and think to myself.

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by wreckshop

Imagine 18-22 year old females at the peak of sexuality being able to openly charge for pussy and 18-22 year old college guys' only way of getting pussy is to pay for it? It skews the whole love/relationship dynamic. The institution of marriage, or at least the wholesomeness behind it becomes threatened. The technicality of age becomes challenged and man will find a way to exploit sex for cash at a younger ripe age since the envelope is a lot closer to pedophilia now.

College aged adults and their frame of thinking is very important to our future economical, social and political infrastructure. For instance, have them believing that chunking thousands to a university for a degree is the way to go. Have them believe that scraping pennies from low paying jobs teaches them appreciation struggle and hunger so when they do become successful their humbled by reflecting on their roots..

Imagine going to a dorm room and on the door, two roomates, Jessica and Melissa have their rates and times for availability posted on their door. Stop and imagine how fucked up that shit is.

Dude, not every woman would charge for sex. Not every one of them would want to see strangers every day of their lives. Some actually like being wives or girlfriends, in committed relationships, and doing what they do outside of this business. Just as now, not every guy pays for it. There wouldn't be a whole population sweep of everyone trying to get into the sex business. I mean, does everyone smoke, drink, or do anything that SOME people like to do??

No, they don't. Your argument is invalid.

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by wreckshop

Imagine 18-22 year old females at the peak of sexuality being able to openly charge for pussy and 18-22 year old college guys' only way of getting pussy is to pay for it? It skews the whole love/relationship dynamic. The institution of marriage, or at least the wholesomeness behind it becomes threatened. The technicality of age becomes challenged and man will find a way to exploit sex for cash at a younger ripe age since the envelope is a lot closer to pedophilia now.

College aged adults and their frame of thinking is very important to our future economical, social and political infrastructure. For instance, have them believing that chunking thousands to a university for a degree is the way to go. Have them believe that scraping pennies from low paying jobs teaches them appreciation struggle and hunger so when they do become successful their humbled by reflecting on their roots..

Imagine going to a dorm room and on the door, two roomates, Jessica and Melissa have their rates and times for availability posted on their door. Stop and imagine how fucked up that shit is.

Classic "slippery slope" fallacious logic you're spouting there don't you think? You do realize that prostitution is 100% legal in well over 50 major countries in the world and tolerated in numerous others. No such "sky is falling", moral degradation of the youth, and the corruption of the institution of marriage has happened. We're not talking poverty stricken 3rd world nations here either I'm talking about places like Canada, France, Denmark, Germany, etc...

Ethnocentric much? Your argument is ludicrous on its face and frankly not worth more of my time.

http://prostitution.procon.org/view....ourceID=000772

Originally Posted by wreckshop

Well for one I didn't know a requisite for being a pussy purchaser is to have a stone cold don't give a shit attitude toward everything else in life like a general sense of charity for your fellow fallen man and a general sense of sexual decency amongst our younger generation

Again your extrapolations and hyperbole are ridiculous. I and I'm sure many others on this site donate time and money to various charitable ventures which help fellow fallen men/women.

What you're seeing here is not lack of empathy but an understanding that the consequences are his and his alone to face coupled with the cynicism that comes from years in this community observing the trend of police the vast majority of the time going after the low hanging fruit of BP and streetwalkers.

Point me towards a charity lobbying to change the laws and I will gladly donate as I'm sure others would. But I'm not giving a penny otherwise, and it's got nothing to do with lack of empathy.

[wreckshop]

Not everyone smokes, drinks, etc..

but everyone has sex..

it it's legal and anyone can do it at the drop of a dime for money...

You're not thinking bigger picture here which is why the powers that be a while back banned P4P and deemed it a crime.

For some girls it doesn't have to be "strangers" nor do they have to be making a business out of it.

The nerd girl in the science classes has a clientele of 5 biology majors paying for her goods at a good rate and she uses that to pay for her books and other shit..

Reverse the situation to where it's illegal. Of the 5 biology majors she's going to have to worry that one doesn't snitch if they get their feelings hurt and report her for prostitution on campus and she goes to jail. Prostitution being outlawed already builds an established taboo like thinking toward the few girls who don't give a fuck and do it anyways. Normal chicks want to disassociate with that behavior.

If it's legal it's taxed.

Market inflation in the economy. Your plate at a regular casual dinner is no longer $10 bucks but $30 because wages need to stay competitively high b/c good looking waitresses have the option of selling pussy for similar or greater pay.

Someone can open up a Legal Spa and promise the girls $22/hr with benefits while the owners make minimum $120/hr for each girl (assuming she makes 3 guys get off at $60 per session in an hour - long lines/high clientele, b/c pussy isn't illegal)

An owner with 8 girls making $100/hr for a 24 hour brothel comes out to a whopping $19,200 in a day. You think that isn't competing with some legal regular job? You can't see how from a morale standpoint it'll affect our young impressionable women growing up who witness this? Our 14 year olds considering a part time job when they reach a certain age?

She waits tables? She sells pussy for $22/hr with benefits.

[wreckshop]

I get what you're coming at Spice but this great country that we live in just doesn't want to in general be like those other countries.

If you're a chick in Kansas and you want to get down like that, go make a major move to Las Vegas and let your whole family know why you made the move.

Shit is designed a certain way to keep people in line. It's the way the system goes.

Even if prostitution becomes legal but regulated like in little back end seedy parts of town, it's still to a sense ostracized. To the guy's point, would you even want to frequent seedy parts of town or sex houses to get off? I can personally say that 24/7 I'd rather see a decent looking provider in a nice environment giving me GFE than to some spa or brothel.

If we're allowing for free individualized no restrictions non-regulated free fucking, which is what we like, then human beings are bound to and destined to abuse it.

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by wreckshop

Not everyone smokes, drinks, etc..

but everyone has sex..

it it's legal and anyone can do it at the drop of a dime for money...

You're not thinking bigger picture here which is why the powers that be a while back banned P4P and deemed it a crime.

For some girls it doesn't have to be "strangers" nor do they have to be making a business out of it.

The nerd girl in the science classes has a clientele of 5 biology majors paying for her goods at a good rate and she uses that to pay for her books and other shit..

Reverse the situation to where it's illegal. Of the 5 biology majors she's going to have to worry that one doesn't snitch if they get their feelings hurt and report her for prostitution on campus and she goes to jail. Prostitution being outlawed already builds an established taboo like thinking toward the few girls who don't give a fuck and do it anyways. Normal chicks want to disassociate with that behavior.

If it's legal it's taxed.

Market inflation in the economy. Your plate at a regular casual dinner is no longer $10 bucks but $30 because wages need to stay competitively high b/c good looking waitresses have the option of selling pussy for similar or greater pay.

Someone can open up a Legal Spa and promise the girls $22/hr with benefits while the owners make minimum $120/hr for each girl (assuming she makes 3 guys get off at $60 per session in an hour - long lines/high clientele, b/c pussy isn't illegal)

An owner with 8 girls making $100/hr for a 24 hour brothel comes out to a whopping $19,200 in a day. You think that isn't competing with some legal regular job? You can't see how from a morale standpoint it'll affect our young impressionable women growing up who witness this? Our 14 year olds considering a part time job when they reach a certain age?

She waits tables? She sells pussy for $22/hr with benefits.

Your grasp of economics is truly underwhelming, read this and get back to us when you have a cogent point to make. And the third word in the title seems to apply to you so take notes



FYI, to go back to the international perspective, some of the world's most wealthy countries (GDP per capita) have legal prostitution, e.g. Switzerland, Canada, Australia, Norway, etc..

P.s. It's illegal because of puritanical ideas of morality not for economic reasons. What was this thread about again?

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by wreckshop

I get what you're coming at Spice but this great country that we live in just doesn't want to in general be like those other countries.

If you're a chick in Kansas and you want to get down like that, go make a major move to Las Vegas and let your whole family know why you made the move.

Shit is designed a certain way to keep people in line. It's the way the system goes.

Even if prostitution becomes legal but regulated like in little back end seedy parts of town, it's still to a sense ostracized. To the guy's point, would you even want to frequent seedy parts of town or sex houses to get off? I can personally say that 24/7 I'd rather see a decent looking provider in a nice environment giving me GFE than to some spa or brothel.

If we're allowing for free individualized no restrictions non-regulated free fucking, which is what we like, then human beings are bound to and destined to abuse it.

Yet another narrow minded and ethnocentric approach. The US could learn a thing or two from the way other countries handle their business. You do realize that most prostitution in other countries happens just like it does here via independent girls in ads, message boards, hotel bars, and the like?

Also, why would you assume the brothels and spas are in seedy parts of town? They are often in affluent areas if they cater to those clientele, and in less affluent areas for those clientele. I've seen providers in many countries and the options run the gamut spanning all economic strata as far a parts of town and nice environments are concerned.

Methinks you should get out and see the world a bit before trying to have meaningful discussions about this matter.

[Wakeup]

Wow...here I thought the OP couldn't get any worse than when he said he buys dick pills at gas stations...

This guy is quickly becoming my favorite poster...

[BFCjosh]

Oh, this is THAT guy!? Now this is making sense. He has come up with some great ideas.

[poppy71]

Lol I was starting to miss the pbsp90x guy but this is making up for his absence.

[Alyssa XOXO]

Originally Posted by BFCjosh

Not interested. Most guys who get caught were acting with their dick or they like the thrill of putting themselves in dangerous situations, like picking up streetwalkers or going to see unknown BP ladies. They don't get the same rush from going to see a known provider with a good track record.

We all know this has risks that could have a big impact on you. EVERYONE, whether they hobby or not, should have money stashed away in case of a period of unemployment. If you don't, stop hobbying and start saving.

Don't expect someone else to come pay your bills because you spent all your money on prostitutes. That's fucked up thinking.

Finger snap!

[Guest071514-1]

OP, you switched up to wanting to help John's to saying if they fuck someone between 18-23 they are completely wrong. What side are you on. 18 is legal age, I have clients come to me at 18. You have certainly confused the hell out of many of us. As Trey says, I'm lost!!!

[wreckshop]

Originally Posted by SpiceItUp

P.s. It's illegal because of puritanical ideas of morality not for economic reasons. What was this thread about again?

You just proved my point.

and I know prostitution is a huge money maker and can boost the economy.

It won't hurt it but drastically would effect it to a point where 16-17 year old girls are faced with real choices of whether to work at burger king or wait tables or sell pussy.

This really isn't an argument I'm passionate about which is why I'm hitting and missing on landing a solid point. I honestly could care less on whether it's legalized or not I'm just letting the guy know what the legitimate nightmare is as to why law makers chose to keep it illegal.

[wreckshop]

Some guy is arguing that prostitution be legal and the people behind the laws are idiots.

I'm arguing that keeping it legal would have a fucked up effect on society.

Whether it's seedy, sectioned off, a "red light district", it's the same damn thing. An adult oriented zone. I'm talking about a wide-range acceptance which leads to man's fear of inevitable abuse.

If prostitution grew from street corners to world wide information exchange what exponential growth could you imagine if it were legalized and openly accepted?

There are more strip clubs being built and strip club culture is now mainstream. This wasn't the case decades ago. The notion that a woman can be a stripper at age 17/18 is normal today but back then she'd hide it as taboo.

The slippery slope comparison to a college dorm with women openly whoring is VERY valid.

[wreckshop]

Originally Posted by bustyamy

OP, you switched up to wanting to help John's to saying if they fuck someone between 18-23 they are completely wrong. What side are you on. 18 is legal age, I have clients come to me at 18. You have certainly confused the hell out of many of us. As Trey says, I'm lost!!!

Amy.


I never said that if they fuck someone between the ages of 18-23 they are completely wrong.

[Dorian Gray]

This pretty much sums up wreckshop's thought process.....