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03-13-2019, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
California's death row is a virtual Who's Who in the capital crime crowd.
I don't believe in the death penalty because it is not administered fairly. Period.
That being said, these men, and women, should rot in prison, preferably solitary confinement, for the rest of their lives.
Anybody want to see Scott Peterson walking the streets?
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Agreed, JS
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03-13-2019, 06:01 PM
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Gaining Momentum
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My impulse is to oppose the death penalty, but I am conflicted. I remember listening to one of the smartest professors I had. He said, simply, that if you take someone's life you forfeit your own. But there are, of course, varying degrees of involvement and premeditation. There are impulsive murders. There are serial murderers. We try to apply charges that are fitting. I believe that we are all flawed, and each of us can make mistakes. That includes the judicial system. But we try to trust our legal system as fair, and to protect the community. I want to view the death penalty as a deterrent, but it fails in that regard. I'm not sure I want to underwrite the needs of a serial murderer when he/she is in prison. I remain perplexed by the death penalty, yet I always feel a twinge of sadness when I read about the "state" executing someone.
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03-13-2019, 06:21 PM
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Some say that the death penalty is not a deterrent.
Maybe if they lined them all up and actually started implementing their extermination it would have an impact.
In the old days they hung them 3 days after their sentencing.
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03-13-2019, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 10, 2012
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You would make a good defense attorney with this argument...all killer would flock to you with that defense to get them off...you could be the next Perry Mason 
WTF does this have to do with the innocents of the unborn and a CONVICTED killer!!  |
Lol
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03-13-2019, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Some say that the death penalty is not a deterrent.
Maybe if they lined them all up and actually started implementing their extermination it would have an impact.
In the old days they hung them 3 days after their sentencing.
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DNA is a bitch. Of course these 164 who have been exonerated, because they didn't fucking do it, will have actually done a great service to deter people from killing innocent people. Great idea Lama.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocen...reed-death-row
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03-14-2019, 06:18 AM
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Heres one. There are many more. You are a dipshit bb. Quit making Houston look bad Pajama Boy
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry..._b_272327.html
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03-14-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by themystic
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Your shtick is old like you cave man...get a new routine.
Your bible HUFF PUFF...nuff said!!
You have no DNA related executions...so you post HUFF PUFF your religious doctrine.
Get back when you have facts and a new shtick cave man.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10823771/n.../#.XIpIIChKiK9
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03-14-2019, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bb1961
Your shtick is old like you cave man...get a new routine.
Your bible HUFF PUFF...nuff said!!
You have no DNA related executions...so you post HUFF PUFF your religious doctrine.
Get back when you have facts and a new shtick cave man.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10823771/n.../#.XIpIIChKiK9 |
Why wont you take the Olive branch Im extending to you.......reach out bb..........take the branch...........we are Brothers in the Spirit.............. When you stop killing adults maybe you will set a better example and people will quit killing babies. I love you bb. My peace I leave with you
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03-14-2019, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
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Originally Posted by bb1961
Your shtick is old like you cave man...get a new routine.
Your bible HUFF PUFF...nuff said!!
You have no DNA related executions...so you post HUFF PUFF your religious doctrine.
Get back when you have facts and a new shtick cave man.
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there have been some innocent people executed over the years. they may not have been cleared by dna evidence but cleared by discovery of documented evidence that was suppressed and not turned over to the defense that would have presented a a favorable outcome.
problem with that it takes years to find this and it won't bring back the innocent.
you're dealing with misconduct with the lawyers and police in the justice system in the way they handle evidence, some things are not equal.
If you're going to execute someone, there should be a high standard for it and too many states have a standard where using circumstantial evidence leads a to a conclusion "he prolly" did it instead of "he definitely did it".
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03-14-2019, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
there have been some innocent people executed over the years. they may not have been cleared by dna evidence but cleared by discovery of documented evidence that was suppressed and not turned over to the defense that would have presented a a favorable outcome.
problem with that it takes years to find this and it won't bring back the innocent.
you're dealing with misconduct with the lawyers and police in the justice system in the way they handle evidence, some things are not equal.
If you're going to execute someone, there should be a high standard for it and too many states have a standard where using circumstantial evidence leads a to a conclusion "he prolly" did it instead of "he definitely did it".
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I don't think circumstantial evidence should every result in a death sentence.
So the technicalities of the law go both ways.
So what is your answer to the killers??
https://www.ranker.com/list/paroled-.../jacob-shelton
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03-14-2019, 09:37 AM
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Join Date: Aug 13, 2009
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
there have been some innocent people executed over the years. they may not have been cleared by dna evidence but cleared by discovery of documented evidence that was suppressed and not turned over to the defense that would have presented a a favorable outcome.
problem with that it takes years to find this and it won't bring back the innocent.
you're dealing with misconduct with the lawyers and police in the justice system in the way they handle evidence, some things are not equal.
If you're going to execute someone, there should be a high standard for it and too many states have a standard where using circumstantial evidence leads a to a conclusion "he prolly" did it instead of "he definitely did it".
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I agree Dilbert. Executing people is really barbaric when you think about it
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03-14-2019, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bb1961
So what rights do the unborn have since your worried about rights??
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Originally Posted by oeb11
Posters - topic is Death Penalty
Not Abortion
You wish to debate Abortion - Start a New Thread or add to one existant.
Thank You.
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03-14-2019, 10:13 AM
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Join Date: Jun 10, 2012
Location: Plano
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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Some say that the death penalty is not a deterrent.
Maybe if they lined them all up and actually started implementing their extermination it would have an impact.
In the old days they hung them 3 days after their sentencing.
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+1
But all or nothing. Can't give life for one murder and a death sentence to another
Make them public too. It's one thing to know the consequences of your actions. It completely different to see the consequences.
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03-14-2019, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Jan 18, 2010
Location: texas (close enough for now)
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actually this is the beauty of having 50 separate states
people of like minds can flock together and sink or swim together, as long as the federal government never falls for the idiocy of bailing out a state, which is the logical extension of socialism
and the criminals can likewise decide where to kill people
one "fix" for the death penalty might be limit appeals to state supreme courts for state convictions although that could bump up against the bill of rights if claims are made regarding violations of brady or whatever
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