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02-06-2024, 12:34 PM
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There has NEVER ONCE been a case of mail-in voter fraud that could possibly come anywhere close to changing the outcome of an election.
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Wrong as usual
We recently had a thread here documenting massive mail in voter fraud in Connecticut- so much that the judge ordered a new election
And of course anyone with any semblance of intelligence knows about the massive mail in ballot fraud that occurred in 2020
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02-06-2024, 03:23 PM
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Wrong as usual
We recently had a thread here documenting massive mail in voter fraud in Connecticut- so much that the judge ordered a new election
And of course anyone with any semblance of intelligence knows about the massive mail in ballot fraud that occurred in 2020
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Oh yeah, the one with ZERO EVIDENCE of those claims. I remember.... the claims. Still waiting on that pesky evidence to make an appearance.
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02-06-2024, 04:11 PM
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Oh yeah, the one with ZERO EVIDENCE of those claims. I remember.... the claims. Still waiting on that pesky evidence to make an appearance.
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Better go back and read the threads
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02-07-2024, 12:17 PM
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Better go back and read the threads
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Yes, because all the evidence is hidden in the Eccie Sandbox. Somebody might want to inform the trump legal team that we've finally found the evidence
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02-07-2024, 02:48 PM
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Yes, because all the evidence is hidden in the Eccie Sandbox.
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So as usual, you choose to stay misinformed. Your choice
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02-07-2024, 04:16 PM
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No one asked you to recite whatever you could google on NJ ID requirements for voting
I asked "Care to provide actual evidence refuting the mail in ballot fraud discussed in the OP"?
It is obvious by your non answers and deflection that you can not.
Thanks for confirming mail in ballot fraud exists
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So your asking me to refute a-non factual accusation of fraud, citing a reference that would prove the accusations untrue? An unproven event that has a false conclusion of "if you can't prove it didn't happen, it must have happened" narrative?
I don't disprove fake stuff. I provide ample proof that refutes these claims of bogus fraud, and show it as being full of shit. Because claims have never been proven in court,, and any and all prior claims as noted were shown to be statistically insignificant.
But sure tell us more about all the leftist ballot harvesting...and the claims of messengered requirements which don't exist.
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02-08-2024, 01:05 AM
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So your asking me to refute a-non factual accusation of fraud, citing a reference that would prove the accusations untrue? An unproven event that has a false conclusion of "if you can't prove it didn't happen, it must have happened" narrative?
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Did you read the OP?
Again, I asked "Care to provide actual evidence refuting the mail in ballot fraud discussed in the OP"?
That is NOT a non factual accusation of fraud. It is actual fraud that occurred that you keep dismissing. Why is that?
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02-08-2024, 11:06 AM
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Did you read the OP?
Again, I asked "Care to provide actual evidence refuting the mail in ballot fraud discussed in the OP"?
That is NOT a non factual accusation of fraud. It is actual fraud that occurred that you keep dismissing. Why is that?
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For the same reason you keep dismissing Republican voter fraud (like the kind that happened here in PA in 2020). First off, voter fraud, of any kind, simply doesn't happen that often. Furthermore, it has NEVER happened to the extent where it could ever possibly swing an election. Never ever. Not even once.
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02-08-2024, 11:51 AM
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First off, voter fraud, of any kind, simply doesn't happen that often. Furthermore, it has NEVER happened to the extent where it could ever possibly swing an election. Never ever. Not even once.
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You are wrong yet again
There have been threads posted here where judges have ordered new elections because of voter fraud swinging the initial election
Hell here are two just of the top of my head
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/polit...aud/index.html
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/...ffing/3138308/
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02-08-2024, 08:07 PM
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City council and mayor? Bravo. And when they re-did those elections, did the outcomes change? And if so, why not a tiebreaker? Or would that make too much sense?
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02-08-2024, 11:52 PM
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City council and mayor? Bravo. And when they re-did those elections, did the outcomes change? And if so, why not a tiebreaker? Or would that make too much sense?
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This you ?
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Furthermore, it has NEVER happened to the extent where it could ever possibly swing an election. Never ever. Not even once.
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You may want to just admit you were wrong. I pointed out two instances just off the top of my head where mail in ballot fraud impacted an election. So that is more than your "NEVER, never ever, Not even once" statements.
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02-09-2024, 12:49 PM
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This you ?
You may want to just admit you were wrong. I pointed out two instances just off the top of my head where mail in ballot fraud impacted an election. So that is more than your "NEVER, never ever, Not even once" statements.
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Fine, it happened twice, in a city council race and a mayoral race. And it obviously has never happened in a Presidential race, or any other race of substance
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02-09-2024, 12:52 PM
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Fine, it happened twice, in a city council race and a mayoral race.
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So you admit you were wrong.
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And it obviously has never happened in a Presidential race, or any other race of substance
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You are wrong here too.
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02-09-2024, 12:54 PM
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You are wrong here too.
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The evidence, or lack thereof, says I'm right. Over 60 U.S. courts say I'm right too.
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02-17-2024, 02:25 PM
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Solid points...
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There has NEVER ONCE been a case of mail-in voter fraud that could possibly come anywhere close to changing the outcome of an election. At least not in U.S. history. In fact, the only cases of voter fraud found in Pennsylvania in 2020 were by Republicans. And even then, it was only a few mental midgets taking part. All they did was push Joe's winning total ahead by a dozen or so votes.
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There is no question tampering happens or that influence is attempted from all sides involved. This idea that somehow one part or another is significantly better at it than the other is bullshit.
Currently the Trump clan has to keep this going because they certainly can't brand him a liar during the campaign and most even try to ignore the fact that plenty of evidence exists that even he doesn't really believe the election was 'stolen'
We can talk all day about influence, power peddling, fear mongering, news suppression, Russian hackers, etc but if we don't have evidence an election outcome was changed its all just talk
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