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Old 02-16-2020, 10:57 AM   #16
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interesting angle on the chinese.


I think they've been using the art of corruption to lock in people into their orbit since the 1990's.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:13 PM   #17
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interesting angle on the chinese.

..... since the 1990's.


Actually, ...... much earlier.



They have their grimmies in pockets all over this country. And Mr. BloomingLate has the biggest pockets of all as for the challengers to Trump .... Mr. Bloominglate has a vested economic interest in defeating Trump to thwart the deal Trump is trying to cut with them to finish his bargaining. They will slow play any further negotiations ... just like anyone else who believes the LameStreamMedia reports who the loudmouths in here parrot!

Can you imagine anyone wanting the economy to fail in the U.S. so their candidate can get elected over Trump? Despicable.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:05 PM   #18
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A couple of considerations ... Bloomie not entering primaries is probably more of a legal hurdle than a tactical decisions ...

.. the DNC is going to have to bless any decision he makes and will in exchange for big bucks. This rumor of the Clintons joining the fray with him might be to test the waters and freeze contributions to another direction.

Announcing, even informally through a network/communication, is a way of freezing donors from contributing to early achievers and holding their money until further down the line in the primaries to toss into the hands of the one floating the rumor, if that person is "favored""!

"Favored" means the donor gets an opportunity for a less risky investment if they already know the person floating the rumor and have received a return on their investment in the past.

Speaking of "donor-investors": With respect to Bloomie it's the Chinese! His recent injection into the 2020 election cycle has a lot to do with chilling any deal being made with China .... the Chinese will balk if they believe Bloomie can beat Trump. And if you think that's good for the country ... for the Chinese to to balk .... well .....

vote for the Fake Indian.



speaking of Chinese money in elections ..



https://thehill.com/opinion/columnis...foreign-donors


Obama’s foreign donors

In September, the Obama campaign got 1.8 million donations from small contributors who did not break the $200 threshold requiring that their information be reported to the Federal Election Commission. They gave the campaign 98 percent of the $181 million it raised that month, a figure vastly higher than its take in any previous month.


Is the Obama campaign financing itself through foreign money funneled in through a website owned by a private businessman, living in China, that uses the name Obama.com?



In 1997, we learned — too late — that the Clinton campaign had relied heavily on thinly disguised Chinese government money for much of its early blitz of issue ads in the 1996 election. The early intimations of funding fraud in the campaign (Al Gore’s exploits with the Buddhist monks) shaved off half of Clinton’s margin, cutting his lead from 14 to 7 points in the weeks before the election. But the full dimensions of the scandal were not apparent until then-Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) held hearings the following year revealing the depth of the campaign’s reliance on foreign money.


Now, in the last month of the 2012 race, Newsweek magazine has raised serious questions about Obama’s fundraising and its possible reliance on foreign donors and outright fraud to generate its funding.



Newsweek raises questions, in particular, about Robert W. Roche, the co-founder and chairman of the board of Acorn International Inc., a media and branding direct-sales company based in Shanghai. He also owns the Obama.com website, which appears on the Internet throughout the world. Roche’s site links to Barackobama.com, the official campaign site, where it invites people to donate to the campaign. Obama.com gets 2,000 visits a day, two-thirds of which are from foreigners. Is it a giant money-laundering operation to feed foreign money into the Obama campaign?


Despite the disclaimer on the campaign site stating that foreign nationals cannot donate to Obama, the suspicion remains that Roche’s vigilance in assuring that Obama.com is on the Internet throughout the world has led to a significant influx of foreign cash into the coffers of the president’s reelection effort.


It will be too late to wait until 2013 to find out. The House Oversight Committee should immediately investigate, using its subpoena power, to see if there is, indeed, a flow of foreign money, via Obama.com, into the president’s campaign.


Roche, by the way, has visited the White House 11 times during Obama’s tenure, according to the visitor log.


These questions arise because the Obama campaign, unlike Romney’s or, for that matter, Hillary Clinton’s in 2008, refuses to ask donors for their CVV number (the number on your credit card that one is often asked for after giving one’s name and expiration date). The CVV is designed to assure that the donor is actually physically holding the card.


The Obama campaign is no stranger to fraudulent donations funneled in through phony names. In 2008, The Washington Post reported that Mary Biskup was reported to have donated more than $170,000 to the Obama campaign in small donations. But Biskup says she never gave any money to the campaign. Some other donor must have given the money in her name.


Given these past problems and the Obama campaign’s sudden influx of small donors, Newsweek wonders why the campaign does not require CVV numbers to minimize the chances of fraud.



The magazine noted that the campaign’s past scandals “make it all the more surprising that the Obama campaign does not use … the card verification value [system].” The magazine added that “the Romney campaign, by contrast, does use the CVV — as has almost every other candidate who has run for president in recent years.”


Let’s find out the facts before the election. If a president who promised ethical transparency is using small donations — too small to trigger the federal reporting requirement — to funnel in foreign donations, we need to know. Before Election Day.
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Old 02-16-2020, 01:08 PM   #19
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TWK -nice thughtful post. Thank you.

I still think H... is actively setting herself up for the DNC convention - she sees the weakness - not candidate capable of being competitive with Trump.

She still holds sway over the DNC - and will set it up to take a brokered vote after the first vote fails to nominate a candidate.

She would take the VP slot from Bloomie only if her convention machinations fail - and Blomie would have to be crazy to do so - take H... on for VP - if he won he would not last a few months before H... would end him.

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Old 02-16-2020, 04:04 PM   #20
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this won't happen.


her political career is over. she's the only one who doesn't seem to know that.


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You fuckwads on the Trump train are the last fucking duickweeds to understand that the Clinton's are done. I thought is was just Lexy and oeb11 but it is all you nuts that have rented her a space in your airheads.
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You fuckwads ....
Does that make you feel like you have a bigger dick, or what?



Are you going to disclose your candidate of choice before or after the election?
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:33 PM   #22
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Does that make you feel like you have a bigger dick, or what?



Are you going to disclose your candidate of choice before or after the election?
You don't have a dick...


I've already said who I liked out of the lot.
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You fuckwads on the Trump train are the last fucking duickweeds to understand that the Clinton's are done. I thought is was just Lexy and oeb11 but it is all you nuts that have rented her a space in your airheads.

if yous say so
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Sounds like they all’s are jerking off on their Hillary Clinton dress-up outfits.

LOLLING-!
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:56 PM   #25
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Nice to read how you Trump Turds are displaying your obvious ignorance. Wow, have anyone of you lot received any kind of education ? You sure sound pretty stupid to me. Like a bunch of disjointed Hyenas. Very sad.
Who knows if Bloomberg would hire Hillary as a running mate.
I doubt it.
He’s not even thinking about that.
Let me telling you bozos something though.
Trump is shitting himself at the prospect of Bloomberg being the main challenger to his crime syndicate.
So far Mike has spent around $350 M on his campaign and he hasn’t even started yet. Trump knows he can’t outspend Bloomberg. Not even close.
So we will see. I’ll vote for and back anyone that will get rid of Trump. He’s bad news. Time to go. It’s interesting to see how this will pan out. Mike is a very def threat and Trump knows.
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how about you support the nascent candidacy of j666 - you could be campaign manager!
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Actually, ...... much earlier.


Nixon only opened a crack in the door.


under Mao? not likely. changes in China didn't happen until Mao's death and with Deng in charge.



I'd say the corruption starts with Deng.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:12 PM   #28
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speaking of Chinese money in elections ..

https://thehill.com/opinion/columnis...foreign-donors


Obama’s foreign donors

In September, the Obama campaign got 1.8 million donations from small contributors who did not break the $200 threshold requiring that their information be reported to the Federal Election Commission. They gave the campaign 98 percent of the $181 million it raised that month, a figure vastly higher than its take in any previous month.


Is the Obama campaign financing itself through foreign money funneled in through a website owned by a private businessman, living in China, that uses the name Obama.com?

Hmm..


this is some serious stuff.


this suggests identity fraud, credit card fraud and money laundering was involved.
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Now that that's failed, Bloomie will set off his next trial balloon with Michelle Obama as VP.
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Hmm..


this is some serious stuff.


this suggests identity fraud, credit card fraud and money laundering was involved.

that's just the tip of the iceberg. what it really means is the Chinese meddling in foreign elections and buying their Manchurian Candidate Obama's way into the White House. certainly they expected something in return for that ...


and people here still yabber about Russia and Trump. wrong country and wrong president!


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Now that that's failed, Bloomie will set off his next trial balloon with Michelle Obama as VP.

that'll take more helium than the Hindenburg to float that man-bitch into orbit!


BAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA
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