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08-08-2019, 07:45 AM
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I understand that you feel the liberals in congress and the LSM have absolutely no culpability in this...your statement conveniently omitted that. Narrative...Trump response for all violence in the world...that's ALL encompassing!!
That's thinking for yourself LD...
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I don't think that Trump is responsible for all the violence in the world, not at all. You asked me what my thoughts were and I did my best to sum them up succinctly. There are other factors in my thinking that led me there, though and perhaps make me biased against him, such as his practice of using bankruptcy as a business tool. To me, this is fundamentally wrong and it tells me everything I need to know about someone who does this. I have never even considered doing that to my creditors. I cannot imagine a scenario where I would. Would you loan any of you money to someone who does this? I wouldn't. I have had customers try to burn me before and they have rarely been successful. It is simply not a thought that I even entertain.
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08-08-2019, 08:15 AM
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I don't think that Trump is responsible for all the violence in the world, not at all. You asked me what my thoughts were and I did my best to sum them up succinctly. There are other factors in my thinking that led me there, though and perhaps make me biased against him, such as his practice of using bankruptcy as a business tool. To me, this is fundamentally wrong and it tells me everything I need to know about someone who does this. I have never even considered doing that to my creditors. I cannot imagine a scenario where I would. Would you loan any of you money to someone who does this? I wouldn't. I have had customers try to burn me before and they have rarely been successful. It is simply not a thought that I even entertain.
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So the morally bankrupt ideology of liberalism doesn't seem to bother you. Strange you say customer trying to burn you and rarely successful.
Sounds like the business you're in isn't one of normal commerce...akin to strong arm tactics of bookies and mob relations, possibly loan sharking. You say your in business for yourself when most people that are have networking that they can deal mainly with reputable people with little credit risk.
That is why people with greater credit risk pay higher interest and have a harder time getting loans or buying on credit. When you're in a business that people are trying to burn you might want to avoid those people or get in a different business. You said rarely successful...hopefully you mean winning a lawsuit nothing else is lawful!!
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08-08-2019, 09:43 AM
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So the morally bankrupt ideology of liberalism doesn't seem to bother you. Strange you say customer trying to burn you and rarely successful.
Sounds like the business you're in isn't one of normal commerce...akin to strong arm tactics of bookies and mob relations, possibly loan sharking. You say your in business for yourself when most people that are have networking that they can deal mainly with reputable people with little credit risk.
That is why people with greater credit risk pay higher interest and have a harder time getting loans or buying on credit. When you're in a business that people are trying to burn you might want to avoid those people or get in a different business. You said rarely successful...hopefully you mean winning a lawsuit nothing else is lawful!!
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Junior, listen to me. I will attempt to elaborate. I am a subcontractor. It is inherent in my business to perform or subcontract for a job and upon completion, expect to be paid for the services rendered. My customers don't set out to burn me, but once in awhile, one of them tries. Whenever one does, I either file a lien on the property or sue the individual or his company for services rendered. The Texas lien laws protect contractors from being burned. That's why few have been successful Most of my customers are required to have good credit before I contract with them. I usually verify this by speaking with other subcontractors, supply houses, etc. If they don't, and I still want the job anyway, I usually require a substantial down payment. Normally, I don't ask for a down payment, but sometimes I do. I don't do any loan sharking or strong arm tactics. I hope this clarifies things for you. And by the way, I really don't know anything about the morally bankrupt ideology of liberalism. I am first and foremost a businessman, and I don't trust ANYONE who uses bankruptcy as a fucking business tool. I don't care if it is legal, it's still wrong. That is my entire stance. Thank you.
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08-08-2019, 10:10 AM
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08-08-2019, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lapdog
Junior, listen to me. I will attempt to elaborate. I am a subcontractor. It is inherent in my business to perform or subcontract for a job and upon completion, expect to be paid for the services rendered. My customers don't set out to burn me, but once in awhile, one of them tries. Whenever one does, I either file a lien on the property or sue the individual or his company for services rendered. The Texas lien laws protect contractors from being burned. That's why few have been successful Most of my customers are required to have good credit before I contract with them. I usually verify this by speaking with other subcontractors, supply houses, etc. If they don't, and I still want the job anyway, I usually require a substantial down payment. Normally, I don't ask for a down payment, but sometimes I do. I don't do any loan sharking or strong arm tactics. I hope this clarifies things for you. And by the way, I really don't know anything about the morally bankrupt ideology of liberalism. I am first and foremost a businessman, and I don't trust ANYONE who uses bankruptcy as a fucking business tool. I don't care if it is legal, it's still wrong. That is my entire stance. Thank you.
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Please explain to me how he easily filed bankruptcy...show me a link to the filings...a person just doesn't say I want to file bankruptcy and done. The reasons for filling bankruptcy are varied and different in a case by case fillings.
When the subprime lending crashed my partner had it file bankruptcy and after reorganizing paid it all back with interest and is back to doing very well again.
For you to marginalize people who are force to file bankruptcy because of market situation or some other unfortunate situation shows your lack of knowledge of the bankruptcy laws. Sometimes it has to be used but you lack of understanding is evident.
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08-08-2019, 10:59 AM
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I've always been a capitalist, junior. Hell, I've been successfully self employed my entire adult life. I just don't like what Trump is doing to this country.
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I run my own business too. The tax cut has helped me. I would guess it helped you as well. If you want to pay more, vote for one of the Democrats. They lie and stoke division too.
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08-08-2019, 02:27 PM
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Please explain to me how he easily filed bankruptcy...show me a link to the filings...a person just doesn't say I want to file bankruptcy and done. The reasons for filling bankruptcy are varied and different in a case by case fillings.
When the subprime lending crashed my partner had it file bankruptcy and after reorganizing paid it all back with interest and is back to doing very well again.
For you to marginalize people who are force to file bankruptcy because of market situation or some other unfortunate situation shows your lack of knowledge of the bankruptcy laws. Sometimes it has to be used but you lack of understanding is evident.
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I don't have the computer skills to post links to the filings. You can find the information with a little digging. I'm sure he had valid business reasons to take advantage of laws that allowed him to file, and it may be harsh to condemn him for taking advantage of those laws, but it is how I feel about him and anyone else, for that matter. Upon learning that he had filed four times, I knew that was all I needed to know about him in order to to categorize him where I did. I make no apologies for that. You asked how I personally felt about Trump and why. This is my answer.
My lack of knowledge about bankruptcy laws suits me fine. This may be harsh, but I said before that I have been successfully self employed all of my adult life, so I must be doing something right because I have maintained that success for a very, very long time.
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08-08-2019, 02:42 PM
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I run my own business too. The tax cut has helped me. I would guess it helped you as well. If you want to pay more, vote for one of the Democrats. They lie and stoke division too.
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Tax cuts have helped me too, no doubt, but as a businessman, whenever a bump in the road appears and I have to spend more because of it, I handle it. You will understand that as a businessman too. Tax cuts and tax increases are things we either suffer from or benefit from, no matter which political side they come from. It won't change my feelings about bankruptcy and those who declare it.
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08-08-2019, 07:02 PM
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I am first and foremost a businessman, and I don't trust ANYONE who uses bankruptcy as a fucking business tool. I don't care if it is legal, it's still wrong. That is my entire stance. Thank you.
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And yet you seem to support the liberal agenda and stance on things, yet it seems that the tactic of using government bankruptcy has largely been in liberal bastions. Detroit being one of the more prominent ones. Thoughts on that?
Or how about all the green energy government subsidies wasted and then bankruptcy or just total bailouts like Solyndra/etc. They are in roughly the same boat in the end.
So as an avid capitalist like that, WTF are you denigrating the current environment for other than you have a serious case of TDS with Trump.
You want to destroy all the good he is doing in the US as a capitalist simply for spite that he is who he is.
So other than you "feel" he is bad at a personal level, you still haven't produced anything where what he is doing "NOW" as POTUS is really hurting people or the working man in the US.
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08-08-2019, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapdog
I'm a firm believer in it.
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funny that you never say that when your fellow Trump hater Ecky9.5 posts one his "Capitalism is Evil, Socialism is Great!" videos.
but you chime in with the "WE HATE TRUMP" thing. why do you hate Trump again?
the world awaits your reply.
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08-08-2019, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapdog
I don't have the computer skills to post links to the filings. You can find the information with a little digging. I'm sure he had valid business reasons to take advantage of laws that allowed him to file, and it may be harsh to condemn him for taking advantage of those laws, but it is how I feel about him and anyone else, for that matter. Upon learning that he had filed four times, I knew that was all I needed to know about him in order to to categorize him where I did. I make no apologies for that. You asked how I personally felt about Trump and why. This is my answer.
My lack of knowledge about bankruptcy laws suits me fine. This may be harsh, but I said before that I have been successfully self employed all of my adult life, so I must be doing something right because I have maintained that success for a very, very long time.
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What the fuck does that have to do with your disdain for people that file bankruptcy, your success puts you on a level that makes them beneath you. That sounds pretty self-righteous to me.
How can you be compassionate and not be able to support people trying to get their lives back in order. I hope you didn't support Hellery because a little research on her dealing would have really set you off. Her old man was getting a blow job in the oval office. My point is you're not going to find anyone in politics that is awaiting sainthood.
You said you recently started following politics and I can see why you despise Trump...the media thinks he's the devil come back to force his will on the unsuspecting populous. The LSM have brain washed a lot of people new to politics.
Trump is poised for reelection in 2020 and the left is pulling out all the stops and they are having a hard time understanding how this subhuman has the support he does. They have no self-awareness that the radical ideology they espouse doesn't sell with the average self-reliant American.
They want the government out of their lives...you're so proud of your independent success it baffles me how you want anything the left has to offer. Self-reliant people don't support liberal ideology and you do?? Obummer just wanted to spread the wealth maybe you do to.
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08-08-2019, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapdog
Tax cuts have helped me too, no doubt, but as a businessman, whenever a bump in the road appears and I have to spend more because of it, I handle it. You will understand that as a businessman too. Tax cuts and tax increases are things we either suffer from or benefit from, no matter which political side they come from. It won't change my feelings about bankruptcy and those who declare it.
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How can you be against something you know nothing about...that is very strange to me. I have no thoughts on things I know very little or nothing about...how can you base your thoughts on something with no knowledge of it. Because you have no cogent answer as to your beliefs on the subject.
What are your thoughts on the Pythagorean theorem??
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08-08-2019, 08:45 PM
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AKA President Trump
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Originally Posted by Lapdog
Tax cuts have helped me too, no doubt, but as a businessman, whenever a bump in the road appears and I have to spend more because of it, I handle it. You will understand that as a businessman too. Tax cuts and tax increases are things we either suffer from or benefit from, no matter which political side they come from. It won't change my feelings about bankruptcy and those who declare it.
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you mean the companies who declare it, right space dog?
ara ya making this personal? because Trump has NEVER declared personal bankruptcy.
do you hate these companies because they declared bankruptcy? or only Trump's companies?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/here...this-year.html
not asking for Trump.
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08-08-2019, 09:24 PM
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LD is faithfully following the DPST narrative - right down the radical leftist Marxist Socialist Shining Pathway!!!
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DTDS radical autocrats hate machine narrative. Attack others. Anti American DTDS support Trump and his racist views. Birds of feather flock together
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08-08-2019, 11:56 PM
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DTDS radical autocrats hate machine narrative. Attack others. Anti American DTDS support Trump and his racist views. Birds of feather flock together
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vas zabanyat tovarishch
check your PM's
thank you valued poster!
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