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07-20-2011, 09:22 AM
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Waiters, waitress and bartenders are hardworking people ...putting up with the public's not easy. If they give good service..I do 20%
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07-20-2011, 06:46 PM
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When I am by myself I always tip based on service because the wait staff has to do the same amount of work regardless of my bill. I know it is standard to tip a percentage of the bill, but they are doing no more work to bring out my $25 steak than my $7 sandwhich.
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I disagree with that statement.
A good server takes care to make sure your sandwich is made properly and they bring all the additional items you may need such as condiments, and you might not be as picky about the quantity of fries or chips, BUT when you begin ordering higher dollar items, such as steaks or surf and turf, most people begin to look more critically at the food, making sure it is fresh from the grill not left sitting under a light cooling off, checking the thickness how well done you asked for and a good server keep on the kitchen staff so that if you order medium, you get medium and not well done.
When you head to any top dollar steak house your item costs more but the service level is expected to be higher and if you tip like you're at Hooters getting a dozen fried wings, I wouldn't be surprised if you're not soon finding out that you aren't getting the food the way you expect it.
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When I am with one or more people I usually tip less because I know the other people are going to tip also. When I am by myself, I tend to tip more because that is all they will get.
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Larger tables take SO much more effort than a 1 or 2 person table. Just because you all order at the same time does not mean the food can all be cooked the same time and arrive at the same time in order without screw ups. Keeping the drink orders for a large table correct, multiple trips for forgotten items because you're busy talking and so instead of everyone asking for water at first, or for something here or something there, most times means a LOT more running around.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of cheapskates in Dallas who somehow think servers make a ton of money but in reality, they usually don't. If you are cheap on tips, you'll soon find that at most of the places like Hooters or Bone Daddy's, you will always get a new waitress because none of the girls you've shorted on tips wants to waste her time with you.
I eat out a lot and also waited tables during college for a time and things haven't changed much when it comes to how servers know very quickly if someone who comes in on a regular basis will tip appropriately or not and will make a point to insure their tables are not cleared when you need seated or will hand you off to a new girl if you are cheap.
If I am not mistaken, the IRS taxes the servers on 8% of their gross sales. At many places, they have to tip share the bartenders and some places the hostesses so if you are tipping 10%, they are busting their ass for 2% after taxes.
Yes, no one makes them wait tables but it is a job that almost anyone can do in hopes of making some money without any other skills.
I typically tip 20% and round up to the nearest dollar.
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07-23-2011, 03:54 PM
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I do not cook at all, and I eat by myself most of the time.
I've always had one or two places I visit a lot. All of the managers and staff get to know me and they take care of me very well. Once the relationship is built, I often tip 50 to 100 percent of the total bill. This pays off with getting a choice of where to sit rather than going wherever is next in the rotation. And, I've gone in when they were on an hour wait and gotten the next available table.
At other places, I usually give the higher of 25 percent or 5 bucks.
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07-23-2011, 06:49 PM
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My Mom told me that on a date women judge a man by the way he treats his waiter or waitress. And the way he tips.
I tip 20% for average service. 15% for meh service... Never less.
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07-24-2011, 02:17 PM
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Today's restaurants often force their wait staff to share part of their tips with the bartender and other staff. Consider that when tipping.
Also, they have prep time in getting ready for the lunch or dinner crowd and whoever thinks the dishwasher rolls the silverware up into the napkins is not living in the real world.
I take issue with the hourly wage estimated by some above as those earnings generally require longer hours and substantially reduce the wage rates. Add the secondary tipping often required and the traveling evangelists who leave "Jesus Saves" literature in lieu of a tip and many servers make less than you think. (I have had more than a few tell me of these type "tippers".)
On a road trip, I had forgotten my car charger and stopped at an IHOP to eat a wee hours "breakfast" and more importantly, had to find a place to charge my phone. I asked the waitress if she could find an electrical plug to "park" my phone and indoor charger during the meal. She did but went to considerable trouble looking for an unused outlet. I could tell she was fairly new, not young and might even have been forced by circumstances to work more than one job. She was on the North side of 55.
My meal with coffee was less than $10. I asked her for change for a ten which she cheerily retrieved. I gave her a 20 and a five and stepped behind the divider to give the guy running the orders a 5 for moving his terminal slightly to get to an extra plug for my charger.
I think 20% is the norm for decent service these days and some higher end places have changed the required tip on large parties from 15% to 22% or even 25%.
Breakfast and cheaper meals: I think that when you are at a breakfast place, since the average meal is far cheaper, I tip higher than the 20% especially solo and if I'm traveling on business alone.
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07-26-2011, 12:52 PM
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I have a similar question.
What should you tip in some foreign countries? I have been to England several times and have eaten at several hotels, especially dinner. I have watched diners at other tables and most of the time no tip is left. It isn't added to the bill by the diner...nothing. And the service, to me, seemed very good. What am I missing?
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07-26-2011, 04:21 PM
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What should you tip in some foreign countries? I have been to England several times and have eaten at several hotels, especially dinner. I have watched diners at other tables and most of the time no tip is left. It isn't added to the bill by the diner...nothing. And the service, to me, seemed very good. What am I missing?
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In my (not so extensive) travels, it seems that a lot of places where English is the spoken language tipping isn't the norm at restaurants and bars. If I go to a place where it is a Romance language, tipping is expected of tourists (but not locals). I have no idea about South America... Central America - tips are accepted and expected.
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07-26-2011, 06:37 PM
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I traveled out of the country of the country earlier this year... I was clueless as to what the tipping customs were. I tipped anyway.
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07-26-2011, 11:18 PM
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Tipping at the level of the U.S. custom in many European countries is considered insulting. It's like you're trying to be the rich person helping out the poor poor waiter. They take pride in their job and are usually paid well by the establishment.
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07-27-2011, 01:02 AM
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based on the food & liquor costs, i figure 15% and 20% and hit a round number in between, unless server/waiter was slow, didnt check back, was not very good, etc.
if they did really well, were very personable, went above & beyond, i tip 20% or more.
if they comp me for something, i tip on the original bill. i dont tip for attractive looks [except in strip clubs :^]
at John's Cafe on lower greenville and the Aw Shucks/Big Shucks and the Flying Fish chains, they have a tip jar where you order. when your food is ready, one of the workers calls your number and brings your food. i tip 15-20% there.
at greek or chinese or buffets, i tip 10-15% cos they still are bringing water, drinks, cleaning up, etc.
about the only place i dont tip is coffee houses [chain or local]. my tip is returned visits to my favorite coffee house. my s.o. tips at local coffee houses but not at starbucks, nordstrom's eBar.
if it's a smaller restaurant, i tip 20% unless it was crappy service or food.
in mexico and central and south america, they usually add on tax [rate varies] and "servicio" [about 10%] [in france, it's called service compris]. i've asked natives if i should/could leave more or if it's frowned upon. all have told me that if the waiter/server was good, i could leave an extra 5%-10% but that it's not necessary to leave anything else. but check your bill, la cuenta, or l'addition to see if they included a service chg.
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07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
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Yes but what do you tip when say 2 people go to a high end steak house and have a couple of drinks and steaks and the bill is $175.00 to $200.00
That would be $35.00 to $40.00 tip @20 % and you know the wait staff had other tables.
Say they had 4 tables per hour and some 2 people and some 4 people and the average bill was $250.00 per table x 4 tables that would be $200.00 per hour in tips alone.
Dam I may need to change jobs.
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Umm yea, if that happened in the real world. Of those 4 tables, 1 might not tip at all (usually the one who ran you ragged) and the other may leave 5 bucks. Ya just never know.
As previously stated, the servers generally have to share a percentage of what they earned with the bartenders, host/hostess, and the bussers. So on a 5.00 tip, the server may actually only make 2.50. And generally speaking (as previously stated), servers only make about 2.12 an hour from the company. And it's not too often you actually work a full 8 hour shift either. Then they have to report a certain percentage of their tips to get taxed. So unless you work in a really high end establishment and have great regular customers, you are making just about enough to put gas in the car and pay a few bills. Great for a 2nd income, but not full time. Kind of like providing, eh? lol
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07-28-2011, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: May 22, 2011
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Little Stevie your information on "tip sharing" is not correct. An employee working for tips is not supposed to share their tips with other employees, in fact this is Federal Law.
In Europe the actual menu prices has a built in share for the server. But if you receive exceptional service a small tip is fine, usually 5% to 10%.
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07-28-2011, 12:46 PM
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I usually tip at least 20%, usually more but never less than $3 (well, maybe just $1 for a coffee).
Their base pay is ridiculously low, yet they keep smiling.
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07-31-2011, 10:33 AM
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At Steak & Ale, servers had to give 3 percent of their sales to the store for 'tip out' that went to the hostesses and busboys. I have no idea if it is legal but it is a very common practice.
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07-31-2011, 11:07 PM
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At Steak & Ale, servers had to give 3 percent of their sales to the store for 'tip out' that went to the hostesses and busboys. I have no idea if it is legal but it is a very common practice.
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a blast from the past, based on the strippers I have dated, pretty common
now the real question is, what do you tip at Sonic
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