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09-25-2018, 03:21 PM
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please walk me through that.. what actual video evidence?
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In today's world, you can put a tiny concealed camera as well as a video recorder in anything, and see everything in HD quality/even hear a cockroach piss. And, because she leaves after to take the money to the mamasan, then he can get undressed while he waits and aim/point it before she gets back.
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09-25-2018, 04:46 PM
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Location: Texas
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I know way more about the operations and intricacies of AMPs than you ever will. I stand by my statement. keep making yourself look bad. your ignorance is on display.
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09-25-2018, 05:13 PM
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it does not happen all the time. nonsense. you use words like "can" and "probably".. I can count exactly 2 raids in Dallas over the last 15 years, only one of which yielded a prostitution-based arrest, that involved neither a Spa Provider or Patron.
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You can tell this guy hasn't traveled outside of Dallas! His "expertise" and "experience" is very skewed and narrow. Just stay in Dallas because you couldn't do it elsewhere.
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09-25-2018, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 24, 2009
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Enough with the insults.
The AMP section is full of territorial Johns who get butthurt over these AMP girls.
Just like with the indy gals, you guys are a number, a dime a dozen to these girls and you act like you're their whole world.
Just get laid, get blown, spend all your dough on them, but leave your turf wars off here.
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09-26-2018, 06:00 AM
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Join Date: May 2, 2017
Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away
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In all honesty I have wondered the same thing. I've been to them in different states and cities. They are known by their advertizing on sex sites and reputation. They are usually very obvious. They can (and probably are) often involved in sex trafficking or else why are the women usually Asians and non citizens from outside the US and moved often from place to place? For variety? Maybe but I don't think it's the only reason.
Do they continue to operate? yes. How? police coruption and that they are low priority? But I would not want to be in one (or filmed going into one at any time) when they are raided. Headlines there you go.
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09-26-2018, 07:29 AM
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They can (and probably are) often involved in sex trafficking or else why are the women usually Asians and non citizens from outside the US and moved often from place to place? For variety? Maybe but I don't think it's the only reason.
Headlines there you go.
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speaking of headlines, you have bought into the false stereotype that the Media portrays. the Spas are almost never involved in trafficking. the ladies are all legal, valid issued Visas, and a few Citizens. do you think they just hopped on Korean Airlines, landed at LAX, and were waived through Customs?
why Asians? better question is "why Koreans", who dominate the industry. Korean ladies have a long (and sometimes sordid history, see Japan and WW2) history doing Spa work.. frankly, they are very good at it.. not much different than blacks and basketball, Vietnamese and nails, Jews and entertainment.
why move around? some of it is variety, but most of it is conflict with other ladies, personality clashes. you are confined to a small work space, with several other ladies, all competing for the dollars that walk in.. any business with that metric would feature employees bickering and fighting among themselves. the industry is made up of a small group where everyone knows one another (largely), you hear your friend is making more than you, at a Spa 2 blocks away.. why not jump over there? the ease of entry and exit (as Economists call it) is so great, ladies can leave on a whim.
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09-26-2018, 07:59 AM
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In my area LE has a lot going on. A few dudes getting HJ's is not a high priority. But eventually they will bust them to knock it back for a while. It takes time for extra service to start being provided again. But it does return and eventually grows enough to be stamped out again. In my area I have never heard of more then HJ. Currently most do not give any extra, beyond a crappy rub.
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09-26-2018, 06:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 5, 2016
Location: Iowa
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In Des Moines, Iowa the AMP's mainly just do massages. The gal might lay her head on your chest and make orgasmic noises while you jerk off. I think they must send women here who do Massage but aren't interested in sex work. HJ can be found but it isn't common and FS is like hens teeth and they never last long. We do have AMP type women in hotels that are providers. They keep the sex and massage business separate.
Recently, because the police can't get evidence of sex acts at the spas, and they like to scare church ladies with human trafficking stories, they have been telling the landlords that there is prostitution and trafficking going on there, and some have evicted the Spa. Kinda stupid when your strip mall is half empty. Stupid to take the word of the police too. But the police probably imply some liability, now that we've told you, to scare the property owners.
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09-26-2018, 10:03 PM
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Location: Sacramento, ca
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In CA the PD has way too much to do. FS is fairly easy to find. Police mostly act upon complaints, if tehre are lots of complaints, there will be a raid soon.
There are spas in every large strip shopping center. Just be wary of your surroundings and keep your spinny senses up and you will be fine.
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09-26-2018, 10:22 PM
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why Asians? better question is "why Koreans", who dominate the industry. Korean ladies have a long (and sometimes sordid history, see Japan and WW2) history doing Spa work.. frankly, they are very good at it.. not much different than blacks and basketball, Vietnamese and nails, Jews and entertainment.
why move around? some of it is variety, but most of it is conflict with other ladies, personality clashes. you are confined to a small work space, with several other ladies, all competing for the dollars that walk in.. any business with that metric would feature employees bickering and fighting among themselves. the industry is made up of a small group where everyone knows one another (largely), you hear your friend is making more than you, at a Spa 2 blocks away.. why not jump over there? the ease of entry and exit (as Economists call it) is so great, ladies can leave on a whim.
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What happened to Korean women when the Japanese occupied indicates the level of exploitation that doesn't go away. Japanese trafficking of Korean women continues to this day. You can even see this in porn in which most of the "Japanese" AV models are really Korean. And you say Korean women aren't trafficked. Hogwash! They are so trafficked that it has become "normalized" even amongst non-Asian culture.
They move around because they know the guys move around and like to try out different spas. Also, moving around helps you to avoid raids for popular spots. Top level management of these places are limited in numbers so of course it seems close-knit but the number of new women entering the business is unlimited, many of which come from questionable sources and methods of recruitment. Not all of these women can leave on a whim. These women have no choice but to work in these spas or to sell pussy. It's not that cut and dry like you think it is. Stop looking at it from a Western perspective.
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09-27-2018, 08:56 AM
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In some cases LE is very aware but it becomes a matter of control. If they shut in down it jiust moves the problem elsewhere. So they may insist on procedures that minimizes health issues and they monitor the environment to some extent. And for their efforts there may be financial considerations.
Near where I live there are a couple of places that survive about 6 spas being raided and shutdown. The two remaining spas now follow certain approaches related to anticeptic cleanup.
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09-28-2018, 07:20 AM
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They move around because they know the guys move around and like to try out different spas. Also, moving around helps you to avoid raids for popular spots. Top level management of these places are limited in numbers so of course it seems close-knit but the number of new women entering the business is unlimited, many of which come from questionable sources and methods of recruitment. Not all of these women can leave on a whim. These women have no choice but to work in these spas or to sell pussy.
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you are the second person in this thread to disagree with me, and who is now banned, LOL.. oh well.. for the rest of you guys..
the ladies I see tend to move TOWARD the popular Spas. your statement in red is disjointed, and makes no sense. unlimited new women? are you kidding me? it is big news when a new lady arrives here, and she is typically a transplant from another city, not "new" at all. no choice? poppycock.. balderdash. I know of several ladies who spent some time in the spa, then opened their own business, completely unrelated to spa work. if they have no choice, are you implying the US Government is complicit in their trafficking? because that is who issues the Visas and does background checks.
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09-29-2018, 04:03 PM
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you are the second person in this thread to disagree with me, and who is now banned, LOL.. oh well.. for the rest of you guys..
the ladies I see tend to move TOWARD the popular Spas. your statement in red is disjointed, and makes no sense. unlimited new women? are you kidding me? it is big news when a new lady arrives here, and she is typically a transplant from another city, not "new" at all. no choice? poppycock.. balderdash. I know of several ladies who spent some time in the spa, then opened their own business, completely unrelated to spa work. if they have no choice, are you implying the US Government is complicit in their trafficking? because that is who issues the Visas and does background checks.
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You actually think the traffickers send their best, youngest, and newest recruits to Dallas???? LOL. You are dumb. They send them to top tier cities. Dallas gets older, used up women. You know a lot of old women who has been in this country for awhile. US government has been known to aid criminals, terrorists, an dope peddlers even though they have departments fighting against them. Ever heard of the war on drugs and the contras who were funded by drug money sourced by U.S. government agents? Visas and background checks are bogus and not so restricted and can be easily attained. You are a dumb old man who has never stepped outside of Dallas or Texas.
You make it sound that Dallas is the mecca of spas in the U.S. I guess so if you think getting BBFS from aged whores who lie about their age is all that and a bag of doritos.
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09-29-2018, 05:37 PM
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Posted by "you'resocoolbrewster" aka Level42, kinda contradicting your own self aren't you, lol
Dallas AMPs differ from Houston AMPs
Posted By Level42 This boils down to two reasons why Dallas AMPs are better than Houston AMPs: Dallas is a better city. Koreans are better hookers with respect to AMPs. So one can say go to hell Houstonians and go to hell Chinese and Vietnamese.
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09-30-2018, 08:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 1, 2013
Location: San Antonio area
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Wow, my humble post has turned into a "spirited" discussion! But gathering from the posts I guess you are more likely to end up on a police mugshot when using an AMP. So I will be staying away from (if I can contain myself LOL).
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