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[sexymaid_69]

Originally Posted by tannana

It's the "chilling effects" stuff.

I think this stuff will get shot down on it's first application to a non-trafficking situation. But folks aren't gonna be lining up to be the test case (see: chilling effects). The net result is going to be underground groups and non-public platforms for trading hofo, which doesn't really make anyone involved any safer but nobody (nobody!) has ever accused the government of thinking it all the way through....

I completely agree with you.
This law will get shut down the first time someone has the needed financial funding to fight it all the way.
Too many unclear statements in the law and its not clearly defined as being able to "help" anyone.

Meanwhile, we will adapt.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by tannana

Posting? No. Probably not. Operating? Yup. And if nobody operates the sites, you have a chicken/egg problem. (to wit, nowhere to post).

And take a single provider with a website: while the feds probably won't prosecute that, they now clearly can. And with discretion, you get stupid shit: let's not forget Mary Beth Buchanen, who spend 10 million bucks chasing Tommy Chong into federal court in Pittsburgh for selling bongs. Not weed. Bongs.

It's the "chilling effects" stuff. And it's legitimately problematic. A single provider can probably get around this shit by hosting her site and domain registration in an offshore location where prostitution is legal or tolerated (who likely won't work with the feds as a result). Someone like ECCIE or Indys or TER could do that stuff, but has one problem: money. One can't repatriate the money (likely) without either doing accounting tricks which themselves would invite scrutiny or a trip to club fed on the basis of the money machinations alone. I suppose an enterprising European who never wants to visit the US could set up a site....

I think this stuff will get shot down on it's first application to a non-trafficking situation. But folks aren't gonna be lining up to be the test case (see: chilling effects). The net result is going to be underground groups and non-public platforms for trading hofo, which doesn't really make anyone involved any safer but nobody (nobody!) has ever accused the government of thinking it all the way through....

So, you’re sayin I shouldn’t pay $50 for my green square on Indy’s?

[loneshark]

Originally Posted by tannana

Posting? No. Probably not. Operating? Yup. And if nobody operates the sites, you have a chicken/egg problem. (to wit, nowhere to post).

And take a single provider with a website: while the feds probably won't prosecute that, they now clearly can. And with discretion, you get stupid shit: let's not forget Mary Beth Buchanen, who spend 10 million bucks chasing Tommy Chong into federal court in Pittsburgh for selling bongs. Not weed. Bongs.

It's the "chilling effects" stuff. And it's legitimately problematic. A single provider can probably get around this shit by hosting her site and domain registration in an offshore location where prostitution is legal or tolerated (who likely won't work with the feds as a result). Someone like ECCIE or Indys or TER could do that stuff, but has one problem: money. One can't repatriate the money (likely) without either doing accounting tricks which themselves would invite scrutiny or a trip to club fed on the basis of the money machinations alone. I suppose an enterprising European who never wants to visit the US could set up a site....

I think this stuff will get shot down on it's first application to a non-trafficking situation. But folks aren't gonna be lining up to be the test case (see: chilling effects). The net result is going to be underground groups and non-public platforms for trading hofo, which doesn't really make anyone involved any safer but nobody (nobody!) has ever accused the government of thinking it all the way through....

Nice consenting adults who are over eighteen can't post an ad on CL because of this law on human trafficking. Once again people lose freedom over a problem that could happen.

I support all efforts to stop HT. Here is the problem.

We are losing rights every day to laws while we have Sanctuary Cites where illegal aliens run free to commit crimes and then let go to commit more crimes in the name of votes.

Has any law maker figured out the highest percentage of HT is happening in the illegal immigrant community's.

[SD78]

Originally Posted by loneshark

Nice consenting adults who are over eighteen can't post an ad on CL because of this law on human trafficking. Once again people lose freedom over a problem that could happen.

I support all efforts to stop HT. Here is the problem.

We are losing rights every day to laws while we have Sanctuary Cites where illegal aliens run free to commit crimes and then let go to commit more crimes in the name of votes.

Has any law maker figured out the highest percentage of HT is happening in the illegal immigrant community's.

You know damn well they have. It just doesn't fit the narrative to point it out.

[Wildman15601]

Thank the Evangelicals

[Don Stephens]

Loneshark - you have hit it on the head. But our "elected" (elected because so few people have an attentions span greater than 10sec) officials are sanctimonious and, of course, hypocriticial