The GOP gave Reagan slack why not give it to Obama?

[Whirlaway]

Never said I am owed anything.............I think making public the ECCIE rule that was violated would be a good thing for the ECCIE community. Especially if the reason involves a violation which was done in a public post !

Otherwise how are we to know what the boundaries are?

But if the violation was BCD, say in a PM exchange, then that should stay private and all the mods need to do is say it invovles a private matter - end of story !

Asking a question iisn't being nieve about the rules of engagement. It simply means I think changes can be made for the better.

Originally Posted by WTF

And you think BigTex is taking himself to serious?

Getting banned is a private matter, always has been.

Why do you think you are owed an explaination?

This isn't a government sponsered forum, nobody owe's you anything, get over yourself.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I think making public the ECCIE rule that was violated would be a good thing for the ECCIE community. Especially if the reason involves a violation which was done in a public post !

Otherwise how are we to know what the boundaries are?

But if the violation was BCD, say in a PM exchange, then that should stay private and all the mods need to do is say it invovles a private matter - end of story !

Asking a question iisn't being nieve about the rules of engagement. It simply means I think changes can be made for the better.

My unsolicited advice: Click on the Whirly wants to be a Mod button!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Never said I am owed anything.............I think making public the ECCIE rule that was violated would be a good thing for the ECCIE community. Especially if the reason involves a violation which was done in a public post !

Otherwise how are we to know what the boundaries are?

But if the violation was BCD, say in a PM exchange, then that should stay private and all the mods need to do is say it invovles a private matter - end of story !

Asking a question iisn't being nieve about the rules of engagement. It simply means I think changes can be made for the better.

One would assume you are smart enough to know the rules. Who gives a fuc which rule he broke? He broke a rule....probably more than once. If you aren't smart enough to figure out how not to break the rules then you too should/will get banned.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by RichardGozenya

2 pages of blah,blah,blah mean nothing.....
most,who disagree with Obama,do not hate him.....
Disagreement about policy,with a naive petulant punk,
is not being hateful

As for HATE,there is enough of that flowing from the left,
mostly directed at conservative women.....
Leftists are some fuckin' heroes

If you lived through Jimma Carter (and his fucking sweater),
you would not be comparing Reagan/Obama,
YOU WOULD BE COMPARING CARTER/OBAMA
When asked about Jimma's presidential capabilities,
(because Billy Carter seemed to be more intelligent)
Jimma's mother said she pushed Jimma's political career,
because she didn't think he was smart enough to run
the family gas station

Maybe,that is why "King" Barry chose politics,too.
Sittin' around spouting leftist bullshit,
has to be easier than actually working
and producing something---
It does not matter what a leftist says...
just raise the unproductive,non-tax paying rabble.
If someone with intelligence disagrees,
just shout "racist" in a loud indignant manner

BARRY'S ECONOMIC POLICY

Give me a liquor store with vegetables.

Raise taxes.

Close obscene tax credits/loopholes... but don't talk about
the most obscene of all..."THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT",
taken by all of Barry's non-producing buddies

Unemployment benefits forever

****************************** ***********
REAGAN "that shining city on the hill"

OBAMA "that shining sucker,to whom we send the bill"

****************************** *********
Of course,all of this political bullshit would be unnecessary,
if the "special 50 %" would get off their COLLECTIVE (as in commie) asses,
and start participating in citizenship,instead of just voting for GUMMENT CHEESE

Just ignore the fact that the tax laws that don't tax half of the workers were created by the repubs. It doesn't mean 50% don't work. It means those tax reductions and new structure took a chunk of the tax paying workers that were paying and turned them into non-payers. Not because they're slackers but because they don't owe any. Check the number of people that were paying 5 years ago that aren't now.
It's the tax laws. Duh.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Just ignore the fact that the tax laws that don't tax half of the workers were created by the repubs. It doesn't mean 50% don't work. It means those tax reductions and new structure took a chunk of the tax paying workers that were paying and turned them into non-payers. Not because they're slackers but because they don't owe any. Check the number of people that were paying 5 years ago that aren't now.
It's the tax laws. Duh.

That is where the GOP is fuc'd to high heaven. They do not want taxes raised on the rich, they want them raised on the poor!

Makes no fuc'n sense to me...

[TexTushHog]

Re: Whirlaway's previous contention that Texas was creating quality jobs instead of McJobs:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_917460.html

Some very interesting statistics in this article.

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by bigtex

I strongly suspect the Mod Staff considers it to be none of our business. Otherwise, they would have made it public!

Even in the "Wild West," there were certain, basic rules that were monitored by those in charge! Have you ever heard of Marshall (no pun intended) Dillon?

It never pays to repeatedly cross over the line. Having been involved for many, many years on the P and Eccie, my unsolicited advice is to just accept it, learn from it and move on!

Correct Sir, all of the above.

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I still would like to know if it was something Marshall said in a public post; or somthing that happened otherwise ! The mods can let us know which. And to ask the question isn't anything to be afraid of dude ! You act like we aren't even suppose to inquire - your a dunce if that is your thinking !

You may inquire all you like but that info is a private matter and will not be disclosed. If the situation were reversed I doubt you would be happy with me disclosing the circumstances of your ban. Plus its a board rule that staff will not discuss these matters.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

your a dunce if that is your thinking !

Originally Posted by WTF

Getting banned is a private matter, always has been.

Why do you think you are owed an explaination?

This isn't a government sponsered forum, nobody owe's you anything, get over yourself.

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

You may inquire all you like but that info is a private matter and will not be disclosed. If the situation were reversed I doubt you would be happy with me disclosing the circumstances of your ban. Plus its a board rule that staff will not discuss these matters.

The temp outside is hot as hell here in Dunceville. Would anyone care to join me for a cold one?

I'll buy the first round!!!!!

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I am curous what ECCIE rule did Marshall violate to get banned? I thought the rules of engagmenet in the Sandbox - particularly political threads - was pretty much the wild west !

I'm confident he's still around.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Doove

I'm confident he's still around.

Hopefully, much less abrasive!

[Randy4Candy]

To answer the original question:

Because these clowns are not serious about meaningful debate and come up short on respecting differing views because their end game is to raise as much hell as possible in order to create general confusion and disgust, thereby "winning" since they have bullied veryone into a state of either disgust or frustration and have the floor since they're (not there or their) the only ones left on it.

Very Third Reich, bear in mind that nobody took them seriously either and Hitler never won an election prior to being appointed Chancellor.

[Hobbyfun]

Here is the cold hard facts
1. If a person or company is in too much debt, either go bankrupt or cut spending.
2. Welfare was not meant to be a career, limit it to two years, ANYBODY can get a job in that amount of time IE McDonald's, digging ditches or what ever and if one don't pay enough get two jobs. When I was young I had one full time job, a part time job at nights and a job for Sat, and Sun that went on for three years and it did not kill me.
3. Stop giving other countries billions of dollars we need to help ourselves first and if any other country fucks with us then send in the soldiers.
4. Outlaw the lobbyist they pay the house and senators under the table for favors and the American people pay for it.
5. Cut the tax loopholes for corporate America every body pays up no offshore bullshit or letting American corp show there profits overseas so they don't have to pay taxes.
6. Tell the middle east if they want to sell us oil for $90.00 a barrel because we need it then sell them the goods they need at a inflated price like corn no more $6.00 a bushel but now $50.00 a bushel.
7. All countries that sell goods in America pay small tariffs to ship here but we have to pay large tariffs to ship our goods to they county lets make that fair before long America will be working and producing again.
8. If you come to America stick to our rules, and beliefs or stay in your county, no special treatment and STOP forcing you beliefs down our throats.
9. If you DON'T respect our Flag, National anthem and what this county was founded on DON'T be President.
10. If you elected to any office it should be against the law to hire your crooked buddies, or family to run this county in the ground.
11. To many people are trying to set the rules and change America
If you don't believe in God that's fine but Don't stop people from praying at sporting events our school events
12. If pork is against your religion that's fine Don't eat it but don't protest and make schools stop serving it.
13. If your illegal get legal or leave but don't try and change us to fit you.
14. I'm fed up with the blacks saying they were oppressed because there ancestors were slaves, BULLSHIT look at what the immigrants did to the INDIANS killed them, took the land, and besides that if your were not a slave shout up and work like everybody else.
15. I understand taking care of the old and sick but we have way to many Government hand outs we have to stop and people have to make for they self's and that includes corporate hand outs.

[WyldemanATX]

Originally Posted by Hobbyfun

Here is the cold hard facts
1. If a person or company is in too much debt, either go bankrupt or cut spending.
2. Welfare was not meant to be a career, limit it to two years, ANYBODY can get a job in that amount of time IE McDonald's, digging ditches or what ever and if one don't pay enough get two jobs. When I was young I had one full time job, a part time job at nights and a job for Sat, and Sun that went on for three years and it did not kill me.
3. Stop giving other countries billions of dollars we need to help ourselves first and if any other country fucks with us then send in the soldiers.
4. Outlaw the lobbyist they pay the house and senators under the table for favors and the American people pay for it.
5. Cut the tax loopholes for corporate America every body pays up no offshore bullshit or letting American corp show there profits overseas so they don't have to pay taxes.
6. Tell the middle east if they want to sell us oil for $90.00 a barrel because we need it then sell them the goods they need at a inflated price like corn no more $6.00 a bushel but now $50.00 a bushel.
7. All countries that sell goods in America pay small tariffs to ship here but we have to pay large tariffs to ship our goods to they county lets make that fair before long America will be working and producing again.
8. If you come to America stick to our rules, and beliefs or stay in your county, no special treatment and STOP forcing you beliefs down our throats.
9. If you DON'T respect our Flag, National anthem and what this county was founded on DON'T be President.
10. If you elected to any office it should be against the law to hire your crooked buddies, or family to run this county in the ground.
11. To many people are trying to set the rules and change America
If you don't believe in God that's fine but Don't stop people from praying at sporting events our school events
12. If pork is against your religion that's fine Don't eat it but don't protest and make schools stop serving it.
13. If your illegal get legal or leave but don't try and change us to fit you.
14. I'm fed up with the blacks saying they were oppressed because there ancestors were slaves, BULLSHIT look at what the immigrants did to the INDIANS killed them, took the land, and besides that if your were not a slave shout up and work like everybody else.
15. I understand taking care of the old and sick but we have way to many Government hand outs we have to stop and people have to make for they self's and that includes corporate hand outs.

+1

We are actually at a fixed rate with the middle east on what we pay per barrel. It is speculation and the stock market that drives the price up for us.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Hobbyfun

Here is the cold hard facts
1. If a person or company is in too much debt, either go bankrupt or cut spending.
2. Welfare was not meant to be a career, limit it to two years, ANYBODY can get a job in that amount of time IE McDonald's, digging ditches or what ever and if one don't pay enough get two jobs. When I was young I had one full time job, a part time job at nights and a job for Sat, and Sun that went on for three years and it did not kill me.
3. Stop giving other countries billions of dollars we need to help ourselves first and if any other country fucks with us then send in the soldiers.
4. Outlaw the lobbyist they pay the house and senators under the table for favors and the American people pay for it.
5. Cut the tax loopholes for corporate America every body pays up no offshore bullshit or letting American corp show there profits overseas so they don't have to pay taxes.
6. Tell the middle east if they want to sell us oil for $90.00 a barrel because we need it then sell them the goods they need at a inflated price like corn no more $6.00 a bushel but now $50.00 a bushel.
7. All countries that sell goods in America pay small tariffs to ship here but we have to pay large tariffs to ship our goods to they county lets make that fair before long America will be working and producing again.
8. If you come to America stick to our rules, and beliefs or stay in your county, no special treatment and STOP forcing you beliefs down our throats.
9. If you DON'T respect our Flag, National anthem and what this county was founded on DON'T be President.
10. If you elected to any office it should be against the law to hire your crooked buddies, or family to run this county in the ground.
11. To many people are trying to set the rules and change America
If you don't believe in God that's fine but Don't stop people from praying at sporting events our school events
12. If pork is against your religion that's fine Don't eat it but don't protest and make schools stop serving it.
13. If your illegal get legal or leave but don't try and change us to fit you.
14. I'm fed up with the blacks saying they were oppressed because there ancestors were slaves, BULLSHIT look at what the immigrants did to the INDIANS killed them, took the land, and besides that if your were not a slave shout up and work like everybody else.
15. I understand taking care of the old and sick but we have way to many Government hand outs we have to stop and people have to make for they self's and that includes corporate hand outs.

I agree with you on most of your viewpoints- but on #14-if you think racism doesn't exist today you are sadly mistaken- how does the Indians plot compare to 400 years of slave labor??? If a person came from a family where just about all their ancestors were slaves- you don't think that will have a trickle down affect? History is History if you want to pretend that slavery was nothing or the Holocaust was nothing than just change the history books.
Are you going to tell me if you have Family A- whose generations went to school or had the chance to work or establish a career versus Family B whose ancestors were slaves- couldn't be educated or choose a career will breed the same results? I think Not!!!

[Randy4Candy]

There are two ways to reason with the Tea Party:

...but neither works.