New Hampshire GOP Speaker Discourages Students From Voting Because They’ll Vote ‘Liberal’

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

That's what I said. I don't think anyone should be in the military without the right to vote. That would be very wrong. I think the age of majority should be 21. 18 is just too young to die for your country, vote or anything.

I suspect there is very little, if any, consensus to raise the minimum military enlistment age from 18 to 21. That being the case, an 18 year old should also have the right to vote. Whether they are in the military or not!

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I think the age of majority should be 21. No service, no voting, no drinking, no contracting, no nothing because you are still under your parents’ care. But how about this, if you’re in the service and 18 you can vote; if you aren’t in the service, you can’t.



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Or maybe just landowners can vote....and only if they are in the military.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

That's what I said. I don't think anyone should be in the military without the right to vote. That would be very wrong. I think the age of majority should be 21. 18 is just too young to die for your country, vote or anything.

What you said was that you did not think 18 year olds should be in the military but if they were they were the only 18 year olds that should be able to vote.

I do not think you would even find 1% of the population that would agree with you on that.

You have a set age to vote. You do not put restrictions on it period.

You can go to work at 18 or school or join the military , I see no reason why that age gruop should be restricted from voting.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by WTF

Or maybe just landowners can vote....and only if they are in the military.



What you said was that you did not think 18 year olds should be in the military but if they were they were the only 18 year olds that should be able to vote.

I do not think you would even find 1% of the population that would agree with you on that.

You have a set age to vote. You do not put restrictions on it period.

You can go to work at 18 or school or join the military , I see no reason why that age gruop should be restricted from voting.

Actually, no you don't. The age of majority is not set nationally, and in many states the age of majority is a floating number. And age is just one of the restrictions on voting. You have to be resident of your district. You have to register to vote. You cannot vote while incarcerated. I'm sure there are other restrictions, but these are the ones that I came up with off the top of my head.

The age of majority in Montana is 21.

18 or graduation from high school, whichever is later
Arkansas
Ohio
Tennessee
Utah
Virginia

18, or if still in high school at 18, 19 or graduation, whichever comes sooner
Nevada
Wisconsin

I only offered the in the military at 18 tied to the vote as an alternative. I don't actually think that is a god idea. I think the age of majority should be 21 and no voting or military service until one reaches the age of majority. I think I was pretty clear that I think 18 is too young to vote or die for your country from the beginning, but if I didn't, I hope it is clear now.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

The age of majority in Montana is 21.

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http://minors.uslegal.com/age-of-maj...-majority-law/

Minors – Age of Majority – Montana

Minors and adults defined.
(1) Minors are:

(a) males under 18 years of age;
(b) females under 18 years of age.

(2) All other persons are adults.
Title 41, Chap. 1, Part 1, §41-1-101
Periods of minority — how calculated.
The periods specified in 41-1-101 must be calculated from the first minute of the day on which persons are born to the same minute of the corresponding day completing the period of minority.
Title 41, Chap. 1, Part 1, §41-1-102

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I only offered the in the military at 18 tied to the vote as an alternative. I don't actually think that is a god idea. I think the age of majority should be 21 and no voting or military service until one reaches the age of majority. I think I was pretty clear that I think 18 is too young to vote or die for your country from the beginning, but if I didn't, I hope it is clear now.

Yes you made it clear that you thought it should be 21 but you put the but in your sentence and the following exception, "how about this, if you’re in the service and 18 you can vote; if you aren’t in the service, you can’t."
I only addressed that. If you have amended it now, fine. I'm not a mind reader though.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I only offered the in the military at 18 tied to the vote as an alternative. I don't actually think that is a god idea. I think the age of majority should be 21 and no voting or military service until one reaches the age of majority. I think I was pretty clear that I think 18 is too young to vote or die for your country from the beginning, but if I didn't, I hope it is clear now.

I think the age of majority should be 21. No service, no voting, no drinking, no contracting, no nothing because you are still under your parents’ care. But how about this, if you’re in the service and 18 you can vote; if you aren’t in the service, you can’t.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Actually, no you don't. The age of majority is not set nationally, and in many states the age of majority is a floating number. And age is just one of the restrictions on voting. You have to be resident of your district. You have to register to vote. You cannot vote while incarcerated. I'm sure there are other restrictions, but these are the ones that I came up with off the top of my head.

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That's because it is generally legal for states to disenfranchise felons — the U.S. Constitution says so. (OK, not in so many words, but that's how the Supreme Court reads section two of the 14th Amendment.) Forty-eight states prohibit current inmates from voting, 36 keep parolees from the polls, 31 exclude probationers, and only two — Vermont and Maine — allow inmates to vote, according to the Sentencing Project, a liberal advocacy group in Washington, D.C

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz1fblaSgbZ

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by WTF

http://minors.uslegal.com/age-of-maj...-majority-law/

Minors – Age of Majority – Montana

Minors and adults defined.
(1) Minors are:

(a) males under 18 years of age;
(b) females under 18 years of age.

(2) All other persons are adults.
Title 41, Chap. 1, Part 1, §41-1-101
Periods of minority — how calculated.
The periods specified in 41-1-101 must be calculated from the first minute of the day on which persons are born to the same minute of the corresponding day completing the period of minority.
Title 41, Chap. 1, Part 1, §41-1-102




Yes you made it clear that you thought it should be 21 but you put the but in your sentence and the following exception, "how about this, if you’re in the service and 18 you can vote; if you aren’t in the service, you can’t."
I only addressed that. If you have amended it now, fine. I'm not a mind reader though.

That's because it is generally legal for states to disenfranchise felons — the U.S. Constitution says so. (OK, not in so many words, but that's how the Supreme Court reads section two of the 14th Amendment.) Forty-eight states prohibit current inmates from voting, 36 keep parolees from the polls, 31 exclude probationers, and only two — Vermont and Maine — allow inmates to vote, according to the Sentencing Project, a liberal advocacy group in Washington, D.C

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz1fblaSgbZ

My apologies, I picked up the wrong state. Mississippi is the state with the the age of majority as 21. Good bye.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

My apologies, I picked up the wrong state. Mississippi is the state with the the age of majority as 21. Good bye.

So would it be accurate to say that you lied? You didn't mean to but you did.

Futhermore you lied about not being able to vote whileincarcerated according to the article I referenced. Vermont and Maine, appear to let their inmates vote. I could further clarify and point out that in many states you can vote while incarcerated if you have yet to be convicted.

Now let us take a look at Mississippi. While the age of majority is 21 , if one took a look at all the exceptions, then I really do not understand why they still have that sham distinction. Maybe it is for your pleasure as it appears you are in the voice of minority on 18 year olds being able to vote in this country or better stated, not being able to vote.

http://minors.uslegal.com/age-of-maj...-majority-law/

Title 67, Chap. 3, §67-3-53(b). The age of eighteen (18) years shall be the age of majority of an executor, executrix, administrator or administratrix. In case letters testamentary or of administration shall be granted to any one under twenty-one (21) years, the bond executed by such person for the performance of the duties shall be as valid and binding as if such person were of full age.
Title 91, Chapter 7, § 91-7-37.
In this chapter (Trusts and Estates, Transfers to Minors):
“Adult” means an individual who has attained the age of twenty-one (21) years.
“Minor” means an individual who has not attained the age of twenty-one (21) years.
Title 91, Chapter 20, §91-20-3(a) and (k).
All persons eighteen (18) years of age or older, if not otherwise disqualified, or prohibited by law, shall have the capacity to enter into binding contractual relationships affecting personal property. Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect any contracts entered into prior to July 1, 1976.
In any legal action founded on a contract entered into by a person eighteen (18) years of age or older, the said person may sue in his own name as an adult and be sued in his own name as an adult and be served with process as an adult.
Title 93, Chapter 19, § 93-19-13.
Age of Majority
21 (§1-3-27
Emancipation
By petition, no minimum age specified (§93-19-3)
Contracts
18 for personal property; ratification must be signed in writing (§15-3-11)
Ability to Sue
18 to settle personal injury claims; married minor may file in marital matters; court appoints guardian ad litem (§11-21-3)
Consent to Medical Treatment
Not specified

[CuteOldGuy]

First of all, there is no "right to vote" guaranteed in the Constitution. Secondly, Olivia made a mistake, and you, WTF, accuse her of lying. You remain an idiot and a bully.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

First of all, there is no "right to vote" guaranteed in the Constitution..

What do you think the voting age should be? If you think it should be 21 you will be only the second person to think so.

What slippery slope restriction should we put on it?

Why can you and Olivia call names at will?....and others are bullying when responding in kind?

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

. Secondly, Olivia made a mistake, and you, WTF, accuse her of lying. You remain an idiot and a bully.

And I said as much. But when I post misinformation, it is a lie. It does not matter if it was intentional or not. That does not make it true. "Oh, I didn't know I was lying , so it isn't lying."

If you post enough misinformation, jump to conclusions to many times, you become a liar. The chicken little sort. Enough misinformation and the truth get yawned at.

Originally Posted by WTF

So would it be accurate to say that you lied? You didn't mean to but you did.

Originally Posted by WTF

Futhermore, IMHO , Oliva has a history with me of not telling the truth. I never defended any child rapist. I defended the process of letting all the facts surface before rendering judgement.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Tisk, tisk WTF - name calling? I expected better of you.

I've got one word for you - OJ. That murderer who got off even wrote a book. Yes, you are defending those that didn't defend a child against a predator rapist, and that rapist went on to rape other children after his true vile nature was known to very powerful people.

The bottom line is that the facts are out and no one is denying them. There's your wait and see. Peace bitch.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Where, Daddy-O are you going to paraphrase my words that implies you are a supporter of child rape in the following text?

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

.........................The way I see it that anyone that does not condemn, after hearing the facts that have come out, Paterno and the university’s actions of NOT reporting this to the POLICE – and Paterno’s boss doesn’t count as the police – is supporting and condoning child rape

See COG, I had defended JoePa, for going to his boss and reporting what was reported to him. So by Olivia own words.....I am therefore supporting and condoning child rape.

But you seem to think I am bullying her! She name calls with the best of them. She is a big girl and does not need your defending.

[CuteOldGuy]

Give it up, WTF. You are an intellectual midget.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Give it up, WTF. You are an intellectual midget.

Quit bullying me...