How MY PARTY destroyed the economy.

[simpleton]

Originally Posted by Little Stevie

Keep your eye on the ball. The ceiling wasn't the problem. The problem was/is spending. Until the spending is curbed fuck any tax increase. They start with the so called rich and then it trickles down to me. I have no problem paying my fair share. But those people in Washington have to fix the spending problem.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I didn't parrot anybody. What makes you think that because I oppose Obama, I must support the Republicans and right wing talk radio? I don't. David Stockman got fired, and has been bitter ever since. He failed. He's an idiot. It was an opinion piece in a liberal rag cited as fact. I guess it is ok to parrot, if you parrot the right people.

David Stockman was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON.

tHERE IS NOT A THING YOU CAN REFUTE IN HIS OP-ED.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by simpleton

Keep your eye on the ball. The ceiling wasn't the problem. The problem was/is spending. Until the spending is curbed fuck any tax increase. They start with the so called rich and then it trickles down to me. I have no problem paying my fair share. But those people in Washington have to fix the spending problem.

WTF do you wanna cut....Defense? SS? Medicare?

Cut all those programs at one time and see how quick we go in a depression.

We cut taxes and you Tea folks are suprised there is a deficit problem!

WTF kinda math course did ya'll take?

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by simpleton

Keep your eye on the ball. The ceiling wasn't the problem. The problem was/is spending. Until the spending is curbed fuck any tax increase. They start with the so called rich and then it trickles down to me. I have no problem paying my fair share. But those people in Washington have to fix the spending problem.

There isn't just one problem. Its surprising we aren’t further up shit creek than we are. Congress lacks the ability, the motivation and the intelligence to work together for the common good. Until they can do that, not much good will come from Congress.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

There isn't just one problem. Its surprising we aren’t further up shit creek than we are. Congress lacks the ability, the motivation and the intelligence to work together for the common good. Until they can do that, not much good will come from Congress.

Munch, you got that one right.

TTH, Rick Perry wouldn't appoint the Senators, the Texas Legislature would have to agree on who they would be. As far as the rest of my points in that response, I said there were no really good answers. I wish there were.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by WTF

David Stockman was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON.

tHERE IS NOT A THING YOU CAN REFUTE IN HIS OP-ED.

Ok, Donald Rumsfeld was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, Dick Cheney was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, George W. Bush was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, Alan Greenspan was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, Peggy Noonan was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, John Dean was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, G. Gordon Liddy was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, Monica Lewinsky was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!
Ok, Chuck Colson was there and knows wtf IS GOING ON!

Wow, a lot of respected names on that list. Since they were there, we best listen to them, because they know wtf IS GOING ON!

I guess you win this round, WTF.

[Texas Contrarian]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yes, better we parrot a failed economist in a notoriously liberal rag...

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

David Stockman got fired, and has been bitter ever since. He failed. He's an idiot. It was an opinion piece in a liberal rag cited as fact. I guess it is ok to parrot, if you parrot the right people.

David Stockman is hardly a "failed economist" or an "idiot."

In fact, the linked piece in The New York Times is spot on. He's one of the smartest guys around, and one of all too few who have any understanding of the problems we face today. When that piece was first published, I emailed a link to virtually everyone I know with a strong suggestion that they take a reasoned look at it, whether they felt they would be likely to agree or not. I will do the same here in this thread. If you reflexively feel that you might disagree just because the piece was published by The New York Times, or because you have preconceived notions regarding Stockman's history, I will submit that you may at least agree that it offers food for thought and discussion.

Here's another piece I emailed to a number of people on my list earlier this year:

http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/2...olitics-over-e

In my opinion, most policymakers would do well to take a careful look at the views expressed by Stockman and others who hold similar opinions. Then perhaps we could avoid digging an even deeper hole from which we might need virtually a generation to emerge.

But I'm afraid that we'll just see the "triumph of politics" continue unabated.

And yes, as the thread-starter pointed out in the first sentence of his opening post, wrecking the economy has been a manifestly bipartisan endeavor!