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Old 02-27-2019, 09:33 AM   #1
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Default Ben Sasse infanticide bill blocked by DEMS!!

It seems the the DEMS in the senate vote down a bill they have no reason to object to??
Makes you wonder who's ass they're kissing...
All presidential hopefuls vote against it!!
At least they are now on record and can include that in their campaigning. https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...n-infanticide/
This shouldn't even be an issue!!
https://aaplog.org/is-late-term-abor...ver-necessary/
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:35 AM   #2
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Democrats, the party of death and taxes.
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:47 AM   #3
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A botched abortion and a live, viable baby laying on the table?

That's nothing that a pair of surgical sissors rammed into the brain stem won't solve.
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:50 AM   #4
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Democrats, the party of death and taxes.
And taxes after death!!
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:54 AM   #5
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That's pretty cold hearted, I wonder how the Dems would feel if that was their grandchild being deprived of life. Probably the same.
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:55 AM   #6
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Posted - the OP's quoted article.
The Senate will vote today on the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, a bill that would require doctors to provide medical care to infants born alive in the course of attempted abortion procedures.
When the bill’s sponsor, Senator Ben Sasse (R., Neb.), requested unanimous consent to his legislation earlier this month, his request was blocked by Senator Patty Murray (D., Wash.). Murray claimed the bill is unnecessary because there are already laws against infanticide in the U.S. All month, abortion-rights supporters have argued that Democrats must oppose the bill because it’s a redundant show vote to criminalize something that is already illegal and that never happens.





But opponents of the bill simultaneously assert that the legislation is a sinister anti-abortion effort to restrict women’s health-care options and punish doctors for providing necessary care. So, which is it?
The born-alive bill can’t possibly be both a meaningless, needless show vote and an effort to punish women and incarcerate their doctors. These arguments are not only fundamentally contradictory, but they also happen to be false.

There is no existing federal law enacting an explicit requirement that newborns delivered in the context of abortion be afforded “the same degree” of care that “any other child born alive at the same gestational age” would receive, as this bill would. Only 33 states currently offer some kind of protection for infants born after attempted abortions, and those laws can be repealed; New York’s Reproductive Health Act last month did just that.



The legislation places no restrictions on access to abortion or on the type of abortion a woman can receive, nor does it mandate any particular type of medical care for a born-alive infant — the specifics are left up to the judgment of the physician in each case.


The bill is co-sponsored by 49 Republican senators, which means it has 50 nearly guaranteed “yes” votes. Of the three remaining Republicans, Cory Gardner (Colo.) has a solid track record of supporting pro-life policies, while Susan Collins (Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) tend to oppose them. None of these three senators has responded to a National Review request for comment about their stance on the legislation.

Among the Democrats, there are 43 almost certain “no” votes. Four Democratic senators could conceivably cross the aisle and vote in favor of the legislation: Bob Casey Jr. (Pa.), Doug Jones (Ala.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.), and Jon Tester (Mt.). They have not said how they plan to vote this evening.
Floor debate will begin in the Senate this afternoon, followed by a roll-call vote.


Comment - I am opposed to the criminalization of physicians in this bill - because the definition of "Born Alive" is unclear - and difficult from a medical standpoint.
It can be argued that any abortion "delivers" a fetus alive, and thus this bill criminalizes a legal act. I am not defending abortion - I would prefer to see babies adopted - but accept the law of RoeV Wade - per the Supreme Court decision.

This act opens the door for Federal prosecution of any abortion provider regardless of the legal status in any State.

There are already laws against infanticide - and any physician who actively causes the death of a live-born baby should be prosecuted. This excepts infants of any gestation term delivered alive given supportive medical care for non-survivable medical conditions. That is proper medical care.



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Old 02-27-2019, 10:24 AM   #7
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We need more abortions and more sterilizations. We need a government program in which sterilizations for felons and prison inmates are incentivized. We need free birth control for everyone, especially "migrants" "refugees" and shit like that. THats the about the only thing the democrats are right about.
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If it is all ready illegal why do you need more legislation on it? Like more gun laws?

Unless it lets you bitch about the other party?
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If it is all ready illegal why do you need more legislation on it? Like more gun laws?

Unless it lets you bitch about the other party?
Like the new raw deal introduced by Markey in the Senate that he didn't want a vote on because he said it was a...Republican setupYEAH RIGHT!!
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:31 PM   #10
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If it is all ready illegal why do you need more legislation on it? Like more gun laws?

Unless it lets you bitch about the other party?



Agreed - BS.
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