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Old Today, 10:23 AM   #61
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Quite astute. Except the economy hasn't crashed and there's no WW3.

The tales you tell yourselves
I think there are some folks here who forget it was trump who launched a shit ton of missiles and tomahawks into Syria.

"On the morning of 7 April 2017, the United States launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea into Syria, aimed at Shayrat Airbase controlled by the Syrian government."

The so-called anti-war negotiator who claims he is the best at making deals, didn't do one there, or with Iran, or with China, or with Russia. He's been running his mouth about how he didn't have any wars. Well, there has always been shit brewing in the middle east- and he had his hands in the pie just like every POTUS has.

Did Biden do anything more than Trump to incite war? Nah. Just took the gloves off of Ukraine and told them to fight with the tools they have been given. Russia can decide if they want to come after the US, but I'd say it's an even bigger incentive for them to settle the conflict vs. escalate it. Imagine what the outcome would be if you gave Ukraine some air fire-power, and something more than mortars, and short range missiles and mostly defensive firepower. We should have supported them flying some F16s and A10's to stop the advancing troops. How different is our saying to them to use the weapons we've given as you see fit, from Russia asking ANOTHER COUNTRY to aide in the efforts to overthrow a government that we recognize. How did North Korea get away with sending over troops without our raising rent on the whole fiasco?

The answer is in the atacms being used as Ukraine wishes. And totally should have been anticipated by ANY/ EVERY country who brings in another bully into a fight.
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Old Today, 10:33 AM   #62
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The Biden regime just proved that they are the ones instigating this war.

The American People chose Donald Trump. They chose peace, and an end to the war in Ukraine.

The Biden regime disregarded The People’s will, and are trying to start nuclear war.

Treason…
You keep saying Biden's not president and has no power. Make up your mind.

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Old Today, 10:38 AM   #63
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On the bright side, Putin has made it abundantly clear over the years that his only quarrels are with the corrupt Western oligarchs, and NOT the American People.

Putin knows what the Deep State are trying to do.

He knows if he can last until Trump returns, there will be peace.
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That one requires telegram but at least isn't private
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Let’s be clear: Ukraine did not attack Russia with US ATACMS missiles yesterday.

* The ATACMS missile system requires periodic course correction and continual inflight monitoring, inputted by manual operators w/ US NAT SEC access codes. Does anyone think we are just giving these codes to UKR?
* The ATACMS uses geospatial and weather monitoring technology to self-regulate during its flight time, including minor flight-path alterations, orientation changes, altitude changes, etc. This requires the missile system to maintain a continuous uplink to US targeting systems, and NATO satellite-based guidance and recon systems.
* The ATACMS launch procedure requires the entry of classified US missile launch codes. Again, does anyone think the US is just going to give these codes to Ukrainian operators, in the middle of a war zone, w/ Russian military intelligence monitoring every byte of data in or out of the area?

Ukraine did not attack Russia last night.

The US did.

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Well, it's now clear who's getting paid in rubles
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ys-2024-11-19/

https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...2f446a8580bc0e

Seems to answer Bam's question about whether they had them or not.

They've had ATACMs for months, Bam. And Bradleys and Abrams. Patriots.

Wanna see footage of Bradleys tearing up Russian armor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrrso5JDR5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khXMVPpxdxg
Dude, nobody wins a war with Russia. They have the same triad we do. Your (and others) rah rah bullshit, rubbing one out to war porn, easily ends in the destruction of civilization as we know it.
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Clutch pearls and read post 50 again, my dude
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Yeah great solution. Everyone dies but that’s ok because you don’t personally give a fuck. I’m thinking there’s at least a few billion people who wouldn’t be down with that.
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