V P debate tonight, should be fun.

[Salty Again]

... Vance WON - and America KNOWS it! ...

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[1blackman1]

It was a draw. But since no one votes for VP, it won’t matter at all.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by tttalinky

Vance seemed more polished and a better debater in general. He did a good job at dogging sensitive questions and changing the subject matter to the Harris/Biden record.

Walz seemed uneasy during the first half of the debate but finished strong. He was able to bring the American audience into the debate which will help on Nov 5th.

Overall both candidates helped their cause, neither had a home run, neither struck out. I will call it a draw, no winner, no loser. Just my $0.02

Very well summarized and I completely agree. I really just watched to see whether Walz could actually keep up with Vance because in a debate, I am picking a lawyer to win convincingly 100 times out of 100. When I read last weekend that Walz said he was a bad debater, I assumed he was going to be a deer in headlights the whole time but although I think it took him some time for him to get comfortable, he surprised me.

On the other hand, I think Vance showed a much less Trump immaturity side that he has previously displayed, and actually came in as an adult and not as a stupid child like his boss. I actually thought he presented himself very well.

As far as who won the debate, with all of the dodging and lies, fuck if I know. I just know nobody outright lost it like Biden and Trump did. And really, who cares? They aren't running shit anyway as the VP.

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

Frankly his guy is just a buffoon, and mirrors harris with his buffoonery.

Of course Vance won, or this is what Fox is telling me.


All kidding aside, I take my comment back, Walz had a bad moment about him being in China, but he certainly didn't come off as a buffoon. He actually came off as being likeable, however his horrible policies like tampon machines in the male restrooms and him watching the twin cities burn still haunt him.


Taking note that harris' sex or race doesn't matter, I would rather vote for Walz than harris. Walz came off as being more down to earth, than the arrogant bitch who thinks her shit doesn't stink.

[eyecu2]

I actually thought they both did equally well. I liked them being cordial and not like the offensive nature of other politicians. Equally likeable. I was surprised at Vance's ability to be articulate and semi vulnerable, and I liked waltz down to earth style. Kinda wish these were the two running instead. Anyone else think that?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I actually thought they both did equally well. I liked them being cordial and not like the offensive nature of other politicians. Equally likeable. I was surprised at Vance's ability to be articulate and semi vulnerable, and I liked waltz down to earth style. Kinda wish these were the two running instead. Anyone else think that?

blame Harris for that. with help from ABC. because of that inside job, both Vance and Walz did better than Trump or Harris.